[NAFEX] leachy phosphate?

Richard Harrison rharrison922 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 19 14:16:28 EDT 2009


A friend of mine that I graduated from high school with who had a promising future in basketball used to like those mushrooms. He ate "one too many", freaked out in the early 1970's, got kicked out of college and now walks aound town or on a bicycle unemployed with a fried brain.....Yeah, I've heard about those mushrooms. Be VERY careful which ones you eat---or avoid them all!
                                    Richard, NW FL

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Bill Russell <shaman at pennswoods.net> wrote:


From: Bill Russell <shaman at pennswoods.net>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] leachy phosphate?
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 12:52 PM


 
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OK Off topic, I know. But:
 
A couple of teenagers were shot and killed in a Florida pasture for picking magic mushrooms in the 70s when they ran after a cop demanded that they stop. Check it out. 
 
Yearly warming is bring the species north. The penalties are severe for possessing this non toxic and non addictive mushroom. It's not the only "magic" mushroom that grows in manure.
 
Bill R.   www.brmushrooms.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Moore 
To: North American Fruit Explorers 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] leachy phosphate?



Yes. It is one species (a lesser, but possibly most well known type) of Psilocybe mushroom that is indigenous to the Gulf coast. They don't actually cordon off the cow pastures. they spray them with fungicides and (I'm told) require fungicide in all the cattle feed sold here. The species in question grows on ruminant manures and as far as I know, does not form large mycelial colonies in the soil. There are far more potent species and those are generally Saprophytes that are far less likely to carry pathogenic bacteria such as E. coli, but they are less well know, especially by local law enforcement.
I must say, I know this from talking to local farmers and gardeners, not from taliking to law enforcement. (Such questions are likely to invite some undesirable "quality time" down at the station.)





From: S & E Hills <ehills7408 at wowway.com>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:05:27 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] leachy phosphate?







An outlawed Fungi?  Are we talking about the infamous “magic mushrooms”?  Has anyone clued law enforcement into the fact that fungi live promarily underground and only poke up to fruit?  I read an article years ago about a super colony of fungi here in Mi that was possibly the largest living organism on the planet.  
 
You’re lucky they don’t declare working the soil in general as working to support the illegal fungi.  
 
I can just imaging law enforcement cording off an area with caution tape after finding suspicious mushrooms.  Isn’t there real crime in that area?
 
Lol
 
Scott Hills
Zone 6b Michigan
 




From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Moore
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:03 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] leachy phosphate?
 


It certainly leaches into the subsoil here in the Southeast, but we have almost as much rain as the Pacific Northwest . Phosphorus deficiency is a common problem in this area. Water soluble forms only last for a season or two. Yes, Fungi can be great allies in growing plants. Too bad we have an indigenous fungus here that is outlawed by international treaties and is sought out and destroyed by law enforcement. Their methods do not distinguish between one fungus and another.

 




From: Alan Haigh <alandhaigh at gmail.com>
To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:57:42 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] leachy phosphate?


Kevin wrote, "That's too bad. Rock phosphate is more slowly available than the others. That's why it's so good. It doesn't leach out of the soil the way the others do. If you have a rich, biologically active soil, it should be available to the plants shortly after it is applied. If you have dead, chemically burned soils, it may never become available." 

 

Phosphorus doesn't hardly leach at all- even tripple superphosphate, but quickly forms nearly insoluble precipitates with other minerals becoming mostly unavailable to plants when applied to the soil.  Where phosphorous pollutes water is when the soil itself erodes into the water.   Anyway, that's how I understand it. As a fruit grower and a gardener I have never experienced phosphorous deficiency.  Hooray for our fungus friends. 

 

 
 




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