[NAFEX] deer eating persimmons/apples/roses

Ed Fackler ed.fackler at gmail.com
Thu Jun 11 15:12:22 EDT 2009


Brian:

     I've used Liquid Fence with success (when 12-14 interval applications
are followed) for the last couple of years (and I have a very heavy deer
population).

ed

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Raby, Brian <brian.raby at roche.com> wrote:

>  I remember a few years ago that a message thread was going around about
> deer prevention in orchards, etc... In this, someone suggested taking a
> couple of raw eggs, some water and run the mixture thru a blender.  Place it
> in a bottle and spray.  Need to reapply after a rain event.
>
>
>
> What triggered that thought was this thread I received yesterday from Cider
> Digest on a gardener/grower named Dick Dunn from Hygiene Colorado who used a
> product call Liquid Fence that contained “putrescent egg solids”..  I’m
> interested if anyone else has had success with this product since I have a
> number of young trees that I will be transplanting to my new orchard area
> next year.  Read his testimony
>
>
>
> He writes:
>
>
>
> Deer damage is a common problem for orchards.  We don't see deer here very
> often, so I've not had much chance to test until recently.
>
>
>
> A few years ago we had an errant young buck find his way into the orchard
> and start sampling.  I panicked and looked all over for whatever repellents
> were available, found one, applied it, and had no further problems that
> year.
>
>
>
> I continued applying it according to the most lenient (longest interval)
> schedule through the growing seasons of succeeding years.  Although I saw no
> deer damage, I also saw no deer.  So I'd begun to wonder if my treatment was
> like granny's glass of water on the kitchen windowsill to keep lightning
> away.  ("It works! Never been hit by lightning!")
>
>
>
> This spring I'd noticed what -looked- like insect damage on a few plants
> around the place, but last Friday I caught on when I saw a deer running up
> our fence line.  (I'm slow but I pick up on subtle cues like that.) So I
> hurried out and sprayed the repellent (which I had neglected so far this
> spring) on all the trees in the orchard.  Along the way I noted various
> small bits of unwelcome pruning--the deer had been wandering around sampling
> the young branches.  Next day I checked and didn't see any more obvious
> damage to the apples, but a few of our roses had been literally "nipped in
> the bud", and I figured out that some damage to our peas was also deer
> damage.  So I sprayed everything likely to get hit, not just apples.  And no
> new damage Sunday...so, so far so good.
>
>
>
> This morning (Monday) I looked out to see the deer contentedly
> grazing!...but on grass nearby the trees.  After chasing it off I checked
> carefully.
>
> No new damage even on small trees fifteen feet from where he'd been.  So
> this is good enough for me to say the repellent really works.
>
>
>
> I don't want to turn this into a brand-name testimonial, but what I've used
> is called Liquid Fence.  There might be other products with similar
> formulations.  The main ingredients are "putrescent egg solids" and garlic.
> I'm pretty sure the rotten eggs are the key to the success, because I've
> heard mixed results with garlic/capsaicin products.
>
>
>
> (The other active ingredients are sodium lauryl sulfate, which I presume is
> a spreading agent, and potassium sorbate.  Yeah...a preservative?!?  Maybe
> to help the garlic retain its potency?)
>
>
>
> Anyway, it works without anything particularly toxic; it -might- be
> suitable for organic orchards I don't know.  The one real caution is to pay
> attention to wind direction when you're spraying!  You do NOT want it on you
> because it has a thoroughly disgusting smell, and is persistent.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:
> nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Hilborn.E at epamail.epa.gov
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:34 AM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] deer eating persimmons?
>
>
>
> Deer just topped my newly planted Early Golden persimmon last night.  It
>
> was protected by a 4 foot tree protector, but about 4 inches of growth
>
> had just cleared the top. Gone now.  As is all the foliage from the 7"
>
> tall Dunstan chestnut in a pot on my front porch!
>
>
>
> And to think, this week I had been delighting in the early morning fawn
>
> antics around my place.
>
>
>
> No more warm and fuzzy feelings for the "hoofed rats" as Lucky so
>
> eloquently refers to them.
>
>
>
> Betsy Hilborn
>
> 7a NC
>
>
>
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