[NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 61, Issue 65 ( Back Pack Sprayer/ Anthony Curcio )

Anthony Curcio apc at vassolinc.com
Tue Feb 19 15:19:05 EST 2008


Back Pack Sprayer,
I've got to go with Jim Fruth on this one.
We tried a couple of back pack sprayers and
then opted for a 25 gal battery operated.
We use organic sprays and keeping them mixed is a chore.
A video of the Bunny Hop with a BPS on might be a keepsake.
The Batt. Operated is mounted on the mower deck behind the little tractor
it mixes everything on the way to the orchard.
We have about 30 trees and @ 20 gals. works out.
Anthony Z4 Nth. IL.

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>   1. Re: Cider Making (Claude Jolicoeur)
>   2. Re: http://www.ibiblio.org (Jim Fruth)
>   3. Re: Fruit produced from a M111 tree ?
>      (dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com)
>   4. Re: Cider Making (dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com)
>   5. Maple (Jim Fruth)
>   6. Lightweight(?) Sprayer (Jim Fruth)
>   7. Re: http://www.ibiblio.org (Chris Garriss)
>   8. www.ibiblio.org (Jim Fruth)
>   9. Re: http://www.ibiblio.org (mIEKAL aND)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:34:08 -0500
> From: Claude Jolicoeur <cjoli at gmc.ulaval.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc: cjoli at gmc.ulaval.ca
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> At 11:54 2008-02-19, you wrote:
>>Does anyone have any resources on types of apples to grow for great
>>cider making?  After reading several things I am pretty much confused,
>>bitters, sharps, bittersharps, sweets, bittersweets........
>>
>>I am trying to make some decisions on what to grow and now I don't
>>know.  I just planted several Arkansas Blacks on a dwarving rootstock.
>>Oh btw, I am in Arkansas.  Zone 7a-7b.
>
>
>
> My first suggestion is to become member of the Cider Digest. This is a
> great place to get information on cider - like the equivalent of this 
> list,
> but oriented on cider only. It comes in digest form, about once a week.
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> To answer more directly to your question, I would say your best cider
> apples will be those that grow well and mature to their best at your 
> place.
> I make excellent cider with Cortland apples, but don't try it, Cortland
> doesn't make good cider down South in warmer climate.
>
> The best cider will generally come from old unfertilised standard trees,
> small and scabby apples, late maturing apples that contain high level of
> sugar (aim for a gravity of 1.060 or better). You need to think 
> differently
> when you grow apples for cider.
>
> True cider apples, bittersweets in particular, are nice and, for me, bring
> some welcomed diversity in aroma and taste - however, I don't find them
> essential for making an excellent cider. In my cold climate, the English
> cider apples have a hard time to mature properly. Actually, I get better
> results with a chance seedling that I found which is a mild bittersweet - 
> I
> call it the "Douce de Charlevoix" (could be translated as Charlevoix
> Sweet). This is to say that if you look around you, you might find a 
> better
> cider apple for your site than any of the official cider apples.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Claude Jolicoeur
> Quebec.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:52:05 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] http://www.ibiblio.org
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Jim Erdman said, "That's the right page--go to the left hand side, go the
> box under
> "Search our domains..", use the little arrow thingy and scroll down to
> NAFEX."
>
> Jim,
>    That's really confusing; how would anyone know unless someone got 
> 'taken
> by the hand' and shown, like you did for me?  But there is one GREAT BIG
> PROBLEM!  I clicked on the list arrow, scrolled down to nafex.org,
> highlighted it and it came up.  Then I clicked on 'Search' and this is 
> what
> I got:  "Your search - Search our domains... - did not match any 
> documents."
>    Now what!  And we want new members to wade through this maze?
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:54:12 -0600
> From: <dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Fruit produced from a M111 tree ?
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <00d201c8732a$fb0b94c0$6701a8c0 at dellxps400>
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> My guess would be  similar to Northern Spy since Northern Spy x Merton 793
> are its parents.
>
> Dennis Norton
> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
> http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
> http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
> http://www.revivalhymn.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Diane Whitehead" <voltaire at islandnet.com>
> To: <dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com>; "North American Fruit Explorers"
> <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Fruit produced from a M111 tree ?
>
>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> He meant, what does the fruit from the rootstock taste like if you  don't
>> graft anything on it?
>>
>>
>> Diane Whitehead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:08:47 -0600
> From: <dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Cider Making
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <00d301c8732b$014dc100$6701a8c0 at dellxps400>
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>
> Roger Yepsin in his little book Apples gives the following list of 
> "American" grown apples for cider:
>
> SWEET
>
> Baldwin, Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, Cortland, Rome, Empire, Grimes 
> Golden, Tolman Sweet, Fameuse, Golden Russet
>
> TART
>
> Winesap, Jonathan, Stayman, York Imperial, Newtown Pippin, Macoun, 
> Northern Spy, Rhode Island Greening, Wealthy, McIntosh
>
>
>
> Dennis Norton
> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
> http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
> http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
> http://www.revivalhymn.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Mullins" <mullins at gaelicmysts.com>
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:54 AM
> Subject: [NAFEX] Cider Making
>
>
>> Does anyone have any resources on types of apples to grow for great
>> cider making?  After reading several things I am pretty much confused,
>> bitters, sharps, bittersharps, sweets, bittersweets........
>>
>> I am trying to make some decisions on what to grow and now I don't
>> know.  I just planted several Arkansas Blacks on a dwarving rootstock.
>> Oh btw, I am in Arkansas.  Zone 7a-7b.
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:59:16 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Maple
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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>    I've been tapping (up to 5,000) trees since 1971 and have tried alot of
> different methods.  I'm available for questions.  I make syrup from four
> different kinds of maple and have made syrup from non-maples too.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:20:54 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Lightweight(?) Sprayer
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <011701c8732c$8d85ca90$6e81644b at ibma20plaptop>
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>
>    Do you want a REALLY light-weight sprayer?
>    I've got a battery operated 12 gallon sprayer that I pull around like a
> kid's 'Radio Flyer' toy wagon.  I bought the sprayer from NorthernTool.com
> (They send me a print copy).  I bought the sprayer intended for spot
> spraying that would be pulled by an ATV.  I also bought some wagon wheels
> and took it all to a welder asking him to make it into a 'pull behind' 
> like
> a child's wagon.  The battery platform is mounted on what would have been
> the drawbar and the 12 volt deep-cell battery is held down with a bungee
> cord.
>    Boy am I glad I didn't buy a backpack sprayer!
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:21:02 -0500
> From: Chris Garriss <cgarriss at garriss.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] http://www.ibiblio.org
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <47BB2C1E.4090703 at garriss.net>
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>
> Actually, if you just type NAFEX in the box above the domains, leave the
> domain www.ibiblio.org and hit search you will get about 6,000 hits.
> Alternatively, you can just go directly to the archives and look there.
> You can go to http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/ and scroll down to (or
> search for) NAFEX.  Note the link to the "old" YAHOO archives is not
> longer functional, but there is a way to get to them if you really feel
> the need.
>
> Chris
>
> On 19.02.2008 12:52 Jim Fruth spoke thusly:
>> Jim Erdman said, "That's the right page--go to the left hand side, go the
>> box under
>> "Search our domains..", use the little arrow thingy and scroll down to
>> NAFEX."
>>
>> Jim,
>>     That's really confusing; how would anyone know unless someone got 
>> 'taken
>> by the hand' and shown, like you did for me?  But there is one GREAT BIG
>> PROBLEM!  I clicked on the list arrow, scrolled down to nafex.org,
>> highlighted it and it came up.  Then I clicked on 'Search' and this is 
>> what
>> I got:  "Your search - Search our domains... - did not match any 
>> documents."
>>     Now what!  And we want new members to wade through this maze?
>>
>> Jim Fruth
>> Brambleberry Farm
>> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
>> For jams, jellies & syrups:
>> www.bberryfarm.com
>> (877)265-6856 [Store]
>> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:28:59 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] www.ibiblio.org
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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>    Why don't we make our own website and eliminate the confusion connected
> with www.ibiblio.org ?
>
>    If each of we 1,500 NAFEX members were to contribute just another two
> cents per month, we could pay for our own web page ($30/month is what my
> server quoted me).
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:34:11 -0600
> From: mIEKAL aND <dtv at mwt.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] http://www.ibiblio.org
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <67979732-41D8-4D4C-85AF-BB19231FDA73 at mwt.net>
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> This link will take you straight to the archives page.  It'll ask you
> to log in with your email address & password.  Don't ask me how it
> knows yr email password.
>
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/private/nafex/
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Chris Garriss wrote:
>
>> Actually, if you just type NAFEX in the box above the domains, leave
>> the
>> domain www.ibiblio.org and hit search you will get about 6,000 hits.
>> Alternatively, you can just go directly to the archives and look
>> there.
>> You can go to http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/ and scroll down to
>> (or
>> search for) NAFEX.  Note the link to the "old" YAHOO archives is not
>> longer functional, but there is a way to get to them if you really
>> feel
>> the need.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 19.02.2008 12:52 Jim Fruth spoke thusly:
>>> Jim Erdman said, "That's the right page--go to the left hand side,
>>> go the
>>> box under
>>> "Search our domains..", use the little arrow thingy and scroll down
>>> to
>>> NAFEX."
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>    That's really confusing; how would anyone know unless someone
>>> got 'taken
>>> by the hand' and shown, like you did for me?  But there is one
>>> GREAT BIG
>>> PROBLEM!  I clicked on the list arrow, scrolled down to nafex.org,
>>> highlighted it and it came up.  Then I clicked on 'Search' and this
>>> is what
>>> I got:  "Your search - Search our domains... - did not match any
>>> documents."
>>>    Now what!  And we want new members to wade through this maze?
>>>
>>> Jim Fruth
>>> Brambleberry Farm
>>> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
>>> For jams, jellies & syrups:
>>> www.bberryfarm.com
>>> (877)265-6856 [Store]
>>> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>>>
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