[NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 61, Issue 60 ( Ash Leaf Maple syrup ) Anthony Curcio

Anthony Curcio apc at vassolinc.com
Mon Feb 18 16:30:13 EST 2008


Jim,
On our farm we have an abundance of " Box Elder " trees or Ash Leaf maples.
We struck on the idea of tapping them. Best maple syrup we've had.
Now I look at Box Elders in a whole different light.
We had another experience like this with Canadian thistles. Tried everything
to get rid of them and then two years ago during a drought our bees made 
"Thistle Honey",
the best honey we ever tasted.
Anthony Z4 Nth. IL.

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>   2. Pruning and Dormant Spray (William C. Garthright)
>   3. Re: Yahoo groups listservs (Erdman, James)
>   4. Re: Pruning and Dormant Spray (Claude Jolicoeur)
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> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:42 -0600
> From: <dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] ikonboard, a better solution to a listserver
> To: "rooting" <rooting at hortus.com>, "North American Fruit Explorers"
> <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> If no one has done so yet, take a look at http://www.virtualorchard.net 
> and see how there system is set up.  Virtual Orchard is made up of  most 
> of the professionals in the apple industry from around the world and I 
> subscribe to their list.  The list uses the same type of e-mail list as 
> this one, as well as great archives.  The only thing that I seem to be 
> seeing throughout this discussion is that some of us would like the 
> ability to search a thread or archives on topics.  I would like to see 
> both the e-mail list and possibly the ability to search topics in an 
> archive.  That's where a bulletin board such as ikonboard would come in. 
> Let me stick my neck out and say that I would be willing to host such a 
> bulletin board and cover the cost of the server (since I already lease a 
> server) for those of us that would like to have the benefits of the 
> bulletin board.  If this is something that many are interested in, let me 
> know and we can work out the logistics off-list.
>
> Dennis Norton
> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
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>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: rooting
>  To: NAFEX
>  Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:57 AM
>  Subject: [NAFEX] ikonboard, a better solution to a listserver
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>
>  Another consideration, boards allow you to look at a topic thread.
>  When seeking a topic thru the search element on the board you can go back 
> to any prior postings and make comments. from current topics to very old 
> ones.
>
>  With an e-mail list, if you missed a posting on a topic of interest you 
> have two choices,
>  >forget it
>  >try to do a list search.
>  I doubt if many people use the list search to pick out all postings on a 
> specific topic, it is just too difficult.
>
>  Also, boards can be set up by areas of interest.
>  If you want to view and contribute to 'prunus' or 'malus' the topics can 
> be separated.
>
>  Regarding bandwidth, the boards are text friendly and have minimal 
> download time even on ISP dial up service.
>
>  Yes, some people are lonely and want lots of e-mail.
>  I have a hard time separating the wheat from the chaff.
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> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:33:33 -0600
> From: "William C. Garthright" <billg at inebraska.com>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Pruning and Dormant Spray
> To: NAFEX List <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> I hate to interrupt this discussion with a fruit question (that's just a
> little joke, I assure you), but...
>
> With last year's nasty April freeze in mind - and Nebraska's normally
> unpredictable weather - I'd like to delay breaking dormancy as much as
> possible this spring. So far, it's been a remarkably uniform winter,
> with some snow cover (not a lot) and below-normal temperatures almost
> all the time since the first of December. We usually have warm spells,
> but not this year. Of course, that can change at any time.
>
> I've read that both pruning and dormant oil spray encourage plants to
> break dormancy, earlier than they would otherwise. But I've also read
> that dormant spray can react with some fungicides, so you need to keep
> them separate by a couple of weeks (sulfur and captan, anyway). Last
> year (my first year at this), it seemed to make sense to prune first,
> and then spray with dormant oil, since the trees would be more open -
> and require much less spray - after pruning. This year, I'm struggling
> to reconcile all these different requirements. (Note that I have a big
> variety of different fruit trees, bushes, and vines, which just makes
> things harder.)
>
> Any recommendations? I've got awhile to go yet, but I want to be ready.
> How late can I wait on these things? And what order would you recommend?
> I need to prune and to spray with dormant oil, and I'd also thought to
> do a dormant spray of lime sulfur (apparently not within two weeks -
> either side - of the oil?). But if I want to do all of these as late as
> possible, is that going to work?
>
> I'd appreciate some advice. Last year, I pruned on March 7 and sprayed
> with dormant oil on March 8. That was too early, I believe. But then, we
> had a *very* warm March last year. Either way, I want to delay my plants
> from breaking dormancy - and blooming - as much as I can. At the very
> least, I don't want to do anything to speed it up.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Bill
> Lincoln, NE (zone 5)
>
> -- 
> I'm learning real skills that I can apply throughout the rest of my life
> - procrastinating and rationalizing. - Bill Watterson's "Calvin and 
> Hobbes"
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:41:31 -0600
> From: "Erdman, James" <ErdmanJ at uwstout.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Yahoo groups listservs
> To: <deirdreb at mindspring.com>, "North American Fruit Explorers"
> <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <413BF80F8BF1254094223A8811DBCE35182DA95B at FMS.uwstout.edu>
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> I belong to Deirdre's list-serve, and to some other yahoo groups (most
> of which I don't get emails from), and I hadn't noticed ads.  Upon
> checking out a few groups just now, there are some short links and ads
> without graphics at the bottom of the page (but I seldom scroll that far
> down), and once in awhile, at certain points in navigating the site, a
> banner ad appears across the top. I don't recall ever noticing other ads
> in the emails that I get from the groups.
>
> Sorry to prolong a topic that seems to be approaching "off-topic".
>
> Jim, in Menomonie, WI
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
> deirdreb at mindspring.com
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Yahoo groups listservs
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> I run a list-serv at Yahoo groups and they started slowly adding ads and
> now it is almost a regular feature of each email.  It is annoying and I
> explain to people that these are not our group's endorsements.
>
> --Deirdre
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>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: William C. Garthright <billg at inebraska.com>
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Date: 2/18/2008 11:30:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Yahoo groups listservs
>>
>>
>> > I belong to 15 Yahoo groups, and don't get ads.
>>
>>
>> Same here. I was wondering about that. I don't get ads from any of my
>> Yahoo groups. Some people do?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -- 
>> We materialists don't deny the force of ideas; we merely say that the
>> minds precipitating them are wholly situated within brains that, like
>> everything else about which we possess some fairly dependable
>> information seem to have emerged without any need for miracles. -
>> Frederick Crews
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:03:57 -0500
> From: Claude Jolicoeur <cjoli at gmc.ulaval.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Pruning and Dormant Spray
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> At 14:33 2008-02-18, you wrote:
>>I need to prune and to spray with dormant oil, and I'd also thought to
>>do a dormant spray of lime sulfur (apparently not within two weeks -
>>either side - of the oil?). But if I want to do all of these as late as
>>possible, is that going to work?
>
> Bill,
> Here in any garden center, up to a few years ago, I could buy "Combined
> dormant spray" where you mix lime sulphur with dormant oil in the same
> spray. Now, they don't sell it anymore because of some idiot regulation,
> and I have to buy a bottle of each. On the instruction, there is still
> written the dosage for the combined spray.
>
> Why would you have to separate the 2 sprays by 2 weeks of time?
>
> Claude
> Quebec.
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>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:13:54 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Listserv
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <002001c8726a$cf8922b0$5081644b at ibma20plaptop>
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> Re, "Having read several comments about the listserv which NAFEX uses, the
> current technology used by NAFEX is antique. The most groups do not use
> e-mail for delivery. Rather they have a current flow of information by 
> topic
> using a board typically used by blogs."
>
>    Antique or not, I've tried the "modern" blogs like the Garden
> Web,et.al., boards but I find I miss much of what there is to learn there.
> I much prefer the way we do it here on NAFEX.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups:
> www.bberryfarm.com
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> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:17:16 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Two Questions
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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>    Does anyone, besides me, make maple syrup?
>
>    Is Maple a 'legal' subject with NAFEX?
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:34:01 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] http://www.ibiblio.org/
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> William Garthwright said, "Try http://www.ibiblio.org/"
>
>    When I put http://www.ibiblio.org/ into my browser, I get a dance
> company's web page.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:45:09 -0600
> From: "Erdman, James" <ErdmanJ at uwstout.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] http://www.ibiblio.org/
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <413BF80F8BF1254094223A8811DBCE35182DA95C at FMS.uwstout.edu>
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> Jim
> That's the right page--go to the left hand side, go the box under
> "Search our domains..", use the little arrow thingy and scroll down to
> NAFEX.
>
> Jim, in Menomonie, WI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Fruth
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: NAFEX
> Subject: [NAFEX] http://www.ibiblio.org/
>
>
> William Garthwright said, "Try http://www.ibiblio.org/"
>
>    When I put http://www.ibiblio.org/ into my browser, I get a dance
> company's web page.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>
> fex.org/
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