[NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 71, Issue 30

Webmail wynne wynne at crcwnet.com
Thu Dec 11 11:14:47 EST 2008


russetted apples
the golden russett does not bear shyly here on our farm
my customers seem to like the flavor very well, definitely needs to hang late
to get the flavor to finish
not real juicy though
ashmead is very favored by customers too  dont forget the Holstein!
wynne @jerzyboyz farm

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>    1. [REVIEW] Back to the roots of crop farming: the work of
>       Nikolai Vavilov (Douglas Woodard)
>    2. Re: acorn crop (Donna &/or Kieran)
>    3. I need Aronia melanocarpa (Jim Fruth)
>    4. russet apple varieties (Alan Haigh)
>    5. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (deirdreb at mindspring.com)
>    6. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (Lon J. Rombough)
>    7. Re: I need Aronia melanocarpa (jas39a at earthlink.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:36:58 -0500
> From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard at becon.org>
> Subject: [NAFEX] [REVIEW] Back to the roots of crop farming: the work
> 	of	Nikolai Vavilov
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> Apart from its general interest, there is a chapter on the fruit tree
> forests of Kazakhstan.
> See
> <http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v456/n7223/full/456707a.html>
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> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario
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> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:08:50 -0600
> From: "Donna &/or Kieran" <holycow at cookeville.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] acorn crop
> To: "Hector Black" <hblack1925 at fastmail.fm>,	"North American Fruit
> 	Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> We're 33 miles from Hector, who says no acorns there.  We have had terrific
> crops on white oaks, post oaks, hickories.  The beech trees were absolutely
> loaded, we picked up nearly half a gallon of beechnuts in the woods this
> morning.  However, there are almost no squirrels to eat this bounty, they
> all starved to death last winter.     Donna
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:02:03 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
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>     Please send me the name of a nursery that sells Aronia melanocarpa (sp)
> that tastes good.
>
>     I had some but they got uprooted when they were in the way but I forgot
> where I bought them.  So I got a new batch from a Conservation tree place
> but the fruit has almost no flavor and leaves a bad after taste.  I need
> good tasting plants.  Thanks.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups and Christmas Gift Baskets:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:09:27 -0500
> From: "Alan Haigh" <alandhaigh at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAFEX] russet apple varieties
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> It's gotten a bit slow here so it seems a good time to renew the frequently
> brought up subject of relative merits of apple varieties- this time I'd like
> to focus on russets.  The reason for this is that I'm relatively
> inexperienced growing russets and am interested in other members experience.
>
> The first russet that drew my attention I incorrectly identified as a Golden
> Russet.  The tree is a reliable cropper, the most of all the varieties in
> the orchard it is located.  The quality of the fruit is very good, a little
> grainy but not excessively so, with lots of flavor, rich and aromatic.  It
> is just juicy enough.  If I grew only 10 apples it would probably have to be
> one of them.
>
> As soon as some Golden Russets began to bear that I had purchased from Adams
> County Nursery I realized my mistake and went to the books.  Although this
> is often a less than reliable solution in confident identification I feel
> certain that the mistaken tree is a Roxbury Russet.
>
> If I was to go by the literature alone, I would assume the Golden Russet to
> be a superior apple, but as grown here I think the Roxbury is a better tree
> in the home orchard and would probably be superior commercially as well.
> Golden Russet is such a codling magnet that along with its tendency to crack
> and its shy bearing habit, it doesn't seem like even a close second.
> However my experience is inadequate, as I said earlier, so I'm interested in
> input from other members.
>
> I've already mentioned in earlier posts that I'm very fond of Hudson's
> Golden Gem and this variety was widely endorsed here by others as well.
>
> I noticed that I have a couple of St. Edmonds Russets in my nursery which is
> a variety that receives glowing reviews in the few references I have on my
> book shelf.  Is anyone out there growing this variety?  Comments welcome.
>
> My location is southeastern NY, Z.6 where Golden Russet used to be widely
> grown commercially, especially a a juice apple.
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:13:03 -0600
> From: "deirdreb at mindspring.com" <deirdreb at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> you might contact Dale Secher of Carandale Farms not far from Madison WI .
> He is not a nursery but is experimenting with aronia and other uncommon
> fruits.  Some of his studies are on the web. He might have a suggestion.
> carandal at chorus.net
>
> --Deirdre
>
>
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> From: Jim Fruth
> To: NAFEX
> Sent: 12/11/2008 8:02:38 AM
> Subject: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
>
>
>     Please send me the name of a nursery that sells Aronia melanocarpa (sp)
> that tastes good.
>
>     I had some but they got uprooted when they were in the way but I forgot
> where I bought them.  So I got a new batch from a Conservation tree place
> but the fruit has almost no flavor and leaves a bad after taste.  I need
> good tasting plants.  Thanks.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups and Christmas Gift Baskets:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
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> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:37:44 -0800
> From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom at hevanet.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] I need Aronia melanocarpa
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Aronia isn't a fruit to eat fresh.  Even though it can develop high
> sugar (I've measured 23 Brix and more on ones I've tested) you can't
> eat that many before the astringency makes your mouth feel dry.  The
> two main varieties are Nero and Viking.  They top the list in
> productivity.  Hidden Springs Nursery has them.
> -Lon Rombough
> NEW grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html
> Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at
> http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association
> "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
> For all other things grape,   http://www.vitisearch.com
> A video about The Grape Grower :
> http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/
> On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:
>
> ??? Please send me the name of a nursery that sells Aronia melanocarpa
> (sp) that tastes good.
> ?
> ??? I had some but they got uprooted when they were in the way but I
> forgot where I bought them.? So I got a new batch from a Conservation
> tree place but the fruit has almost no flavor and leaves a bad after
> taste.? I need good tasting plants.? Thanks.
> ?
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN? 56472
> For jams, jellies & syrups and Christmas Gift Baskets:
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (877)265-6856 [Store]
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