[NAFEX] Apple pressing

hans brinkmann hans-brinkmann at t-online.de
Mon Dec 8 05:55:48 EST 2008

Hallo Claude,

your photos and your self made machines/devices are fantastic!
The same method is used mostly at Germany!
Additionally many small companies with your method are offering
the special service, to press really the original juice from the 
customer's apples/fruits.
If the customer likes, the juice is pasteurized during seconds and 
filled up.
Finally they charge a bit more than one US $ per liter.
For the same money you can buy juice at supermarkets.
Few companies are offering this service also mobile - they would come to 
your place.
The larger companies (modified method) just give you the equivalent of 
juice, but cheaper.
They have collecting places for apples even at the smallest towns.
The blocks of pomace are bought from animal farmers and very much from 
hunters to feed wildlife.
Thank you very much!

ciao hans

Claude Jolicoeur schrieb:
> Quite a few questions around - I will try to answer all here - Hope I don't
> forget any...
> >From David:
>> (Claude, does the French Canadian word <<cidre>> refer to sweet as well as
> hard cider?  
>> This whole concept is an American creation, dating from Prohibition, and
> certainly in France, 
>> <<le cidre>> refers unequivocally to the alcoholic beverage.)
> Everything that is not fermented should be called "juice" in my opinion.
> "Cidre" would never be used around here for anything else than what
> americans call hard cider.
> >From Jim:
>> What kind of fabric do you use to hold your mashed apples?  I've used
> muzzlin (sp), a slightly heavy cotton cloth but it sometimes blows out at
> the gaps between the vertical basket slats and there is no way it would
> remain intact if I used it for a cheese press.
> I bought some nylon fabric, of the type used for semi-transparent drapes on
> windows. It might also be used for wedding dresses... I tried to choose the
> sturdiest one. My wife did a bit of sowing to give the shape. I have just
> added a new picture in the album showing the cloth (it will be the last
> picture of the album). Same link as before:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/cjoliprsf/ApplePress
> >From Mark:
>> In short, a typical acme 1 1/4" screw will only deliver about 4 ton of
> force, and that's with a thrust bearing, if 100 ft/lbs. of torque is
> applied to the screw.
> I will now put my mechanical engineer's hat... The general relation for
> torque vs axial force in a screw is:
> Torque = 0.2 x Axial Force x Screw Diameter
> This is a simplified, but fairly accurate, formula for standard friction
> coefficients between screw and nut. If the diameter is in inches, you get a
> torque in inch-pounds. You need to divide by 12 to get foot-pounds.
> Interestingly, from this formula, you would think that by taking a smaller
> screw, you would need less torque. However, there is a minimum screw
> diameter required in function of the axial force to keep the stress at a
> reasonable level. Further, the longer the screw, the more chance it may
> become unstable (this is called buckling) and the diameter has to be beefed
> up. I have a project to write an article some day on elementary press
> mechanics, but it seems I never get the time for this...
> Claude
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