[NAFEX] Febreze nontoxic?-of course not

Sonja & Raymond Barker orchard1 at telus.net
Sun Nov 18 18:09:10 EST 2007


i think the XXX product should be banned....when my mother sprayed it in the 
family room a couple of years back the smell gave me allergies for months 
and she could not use the room for a long time...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Williamson" <ScottW at acespower.com>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Febreze nontoxic?-of course not


>I agree and I would also add that the statement 'there is no scientific
> evidence that XXX product is harmful'  does not mean the product is 100%
> safe, even though that is what is normally implied when someone makes
> that claim.  It's just as accurate in most cases to say 'there is no
> scientific evidence that XXX product is safe'.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Olenio
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:03 PM
> To: 'North American Fruit Explorers'
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Febreze nontoxic?-of course not
>
> Hi,
>
> Hello,
>
> Just because national manufacturers give bizarrely specific instructions
> and
> warnings does not mean it is toxic.  It means that 80% of the population
> has
> zero common sense and access to a lawyer.
>
> Toasters come with warnings not to immerse the toaster in your bathtub
> while
> bathing and making toast.  Does that mean it is a safety hazard?  Nope,
> it
> means a lot of people are stupid.
>
> Those instructions and warning are written for the "lowest common
> denominator" of society and to protect the manufacturer from whackos.
>
> Sure, some things need to be handled safely, but most of the warnings
> have
> nothing to do with safety but with people who have no common sense,
> and/or a
> desire to sue.
>
> Later,
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Michael Nave
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:53 PM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Febreze nontoxic?-of course not
>
> Of course febreze is toxic. That's why P&G, the
> manufacturer, gives very specific instructions not to
> use it except as they direct. P&G and a natl
> veterinarians organization both caution not to place
> birds in a cage after spraying with febreze. You must
> allow time for the fumes to dissipate. If you don't,
> birds may be harmed. One of the ingredients is zinc
> chloride. Here's the MSDS for zinc chloride:
>
> http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/z2280.htm
>
> Note the language "DANGER! CORROSIVE. CAUSES BURNS TO
> ANY AREA OF CONTACT. HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED.
> AFFECTS THE CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM."
>
> Now the zinc chloride used in febreze is small
> concentration, but if you misuse febreze and many many
> pet owners do, you can harm pets. There are hundreds
> of people who have reported illness or death caused by
> overusing febreze. I am familiar with many bird owners
> whose birds have had health problems associated with
> febreze. Has a scientific lab proved that deaths were
> caused by febreze? No. But when you have dozens of
> animals that were perfectly healthy and their owners
> admit to misusing febreze, and there is no evidence
> for any other cause, the resulting conclusion is
> fairly easy to make, unless you work for P&G. And even
> P&G has bent over backwards to tell people not to
> misuses febreze. If it wasn't toxic, they wouldn't
> bother.
>
> And if you still think that febreze is nontoxic, why
> don't you perform a simple test? Spray yourself with
> febreze twice a day for a month. Then tell us how you
> feel. That's what some people were doing with their
> dogs. The dogs got sick.
>
>
> --- Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman at murraystate.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> At 11:25 PM 11/13/2007, you wrote:
>> >Febreze is poisonous. It will kill birds, dogs,
>> cats
>> >and just about anything else if used in sufficient
>> >concentration.
>>
>> Urban/Internet myth.
>> There have been no confirmed cases of Febreze
>> causing death in any
>> pet - bird, cat, or dog.
>> "Contrary to rumors circulating on the Internet
>> alleging that Febreze
>> causes serious illness or death in pets, veterinary
>> toxicology
>> experts at the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center
>> regard Febreze
>> fabric freshener products to be safe for use in
>> households with pets.
>> As with any product, it is important that you always
>> follow label
>> instructions for use. However, should your cat
>> accidentally come into
>> contact with Febreze when it is still wet, we would
>> not anticipate
>> problems beyond mild skin irritation (which can
>> occur with any
>> product in animals with sensitive skin) or minor
>> stomach upset, if it
>> is ingested."
>>
>> However, even water will kill all the above animals
>> - and humans - if
>> used in sufficient concentration.
>>
>>
>> Louis L. "Lucky" Pittman, Jr., DVM
>> Veterinary Pathologist/ Dept. Chairman
>> Murray St. Univ.-Breathitt Veterinary Ctr.
>> Hopkinsville, KY
>>
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