[NAFEX] Febreze nontoxic?-of course not

Thomas Olenio tolenio at sentex.net
Sun Nov 18 16:02:55 EST 2007


Hi,

Hello,

Just because national manufacturers give bizarrely specific instructions and
warnings does not mean it is toxic.  It means that 80% of the population has
zero common sense and access to a lawyer.

Toasters come with warnings not to immerse the toaster in your bathtub while
bathing and making toast.  Does that mean it is a safety hazard?  Nope, it
means a lot of people are stupid.

Those instructions and warning are written for the "lowest common
denominator" of society and to protect the manufacturer from whackos.

Sure, some things need to be handled safely, but most of the warnings have
nothing to do with safety but with people who have no common sense, and/or a
desire to sue.

Later,
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Michael Nave
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:53 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Febreze nontoxic?-of course not

Of course febreze is toxic. That's why P&G, the
manufacturer, gives very specific instructions not to
use it except as they direct. P&G and a natl
veterinarians organization both caution not to place
birds in a cage after spraying with febreze. You must
allow time for the fumes to dissipate. If you don't,
birds may be harmed. One of the ingredients is zinc
chloride. Here's the MSDS for zinc chloride:

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/z2280.htm

Note the language "DANGER! CORROSIVE. CAUSES BURNS TO
ANY AREA OF CONTACT. HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED.
AFFECTS THE CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM."

Now the zinc chloride used in febreze is small
concentration, but if you misuse febreze and many many
pet owners do, you can harm pets. There are hundreds
of people who have reported illness or death caused by
overusing febreze. I am familiar with many bird owners
whose birds have had health problems associated with
febreze. Has a scientific lab proved that deaths were
caused by febreze? No. But when you have dozens of
animals that were perfectly healthy and their owners
admit to misusing febreze, and there is no evidence
for any other cause, the resulting conclusion is
fairly easy to make, unless you work for P&G. And even
P&G has bent over backwards to tell people not to
misuses febreze. If it wasn't toxic, they wouldn't
bother.

And if you still think that febreze is nontoxic, why
don't you perform a simple test? Spray yourself with
febreze twice a day for a month. Then tell us how you
feel. That's what some people were doing with their
dogs. The dogs got sick. 


--- Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman at murraystate.edu>
wrote:

> At 11:25 PM 11/13/2007, you wrote:
> >Febreze is poisonous. It will kill birds, dogs,
> cats
> >and just about anything else if used in sufficient
> >concentration.
> 
> Urban/Internet myth.
> There have been no confirmed cases of Febreze
> causing death in any 
> pet - bird, cat, or dog.
> "Contrary to rumors circulating on the Internet
> alleging that Febreze 
> causes serious illness or death in pets, veterinary
> toxicology 
> experts at the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center
> regard Febreze 
> fabric freshener products to be safe for use in
> households with pets.
> As with any product, it is important that you always
> follow label 
> instructions for use. However, should your cat
> accidentally come into 
> contact with Febreze when it is still wet, we would
> not anticipate 
> problems beyond mild skin irritation (which can
> occur with any 
> product in animals with sensitive skin) or minor
> stomach upset, if it 
> is ingested."
> 
> However, even water will kill all the above animals
> - and humans - if 
> used in sufficient concentration.
> 
> 
> Louis L. "Lucky" Pittman, Jr., DVM
> Veterinary Pathologist/ Dept. Chairman
> Murray St. Univ.-Breathitt Veterinary Ctr.
> Hopkinsville, KY 
> 
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