[NAFEX] Another question on pruning freeze damage

Richard O'Barr topgun at otelco.net
Fri Jun 1 14:48:27 EDT 2007

I grafted 40 native persimmons with Oriental types this spring, after planting the stocks in the winter. I waited until they began to show buds. One grafted tree dided rootstock and all; but the others lived. This is the best percentage I have ever achieved, but first time grafting onto small stocks and keeping the native sprouts rubbed off.
As for Jiro, I have one that I grafted in the top[ of another native tree about 7 feet high 2 seasons back( if the I. D. on it is correct) I rec'd wood from another Nafexer so it must be correct - i. e. , if I did not mix it myself. It was hit hard but is coming back above the graft. I am in zone 7 also - 30 miles south of Huntsville, AL.
As for Saijo, I have 3 trees, one about 12 feet tall and 2 about 9 feet tall. They were hit hard but are all three coming back and I just watered the 2 younger ones as you know the drought we are in.
I'll let someone else comment on using oriental stock but I wonder if you have any. I have heard that it is not nearly as successful a stock as the native. Also, I have yet to try summer grafts on persimmon so someone who has please check in.

Zone 7
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John McCuan 
  To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org 
  Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:46 PM
  Subject: [NAFEX] Another question on pruning freeze damage

  We also had some pruning questions concerning frost damage.

  I had an Asian persimmon (Jiro) killed by the frost, but the rootstock is sending up sprouts right next to the graft. I pruned the graft all the way down to a few inches above the graft, but it clearly was dead.  

  It was the first Asian persimmon we planted, and it was about 2 years old, so the rootstock is now about 2 inches in diameter.  Should I just let the rootstock grow into a tree?  Another option might be to get a branch of a wild native persimmon we have that produces very tasty fruit.  It may be possible to get a branch of similar size and graft it to the rootstock, though it will be something of a trick since the trunk goes up about 20 feet without any branches (it grew up under tall pines).  Someone once told me I could graft Asian persimmons onto native persimmon rootstock, can I do the opposite as well?

  Are persimmons hard to graft?  I must admit I've never grafted before, though I've been closely reading NAFEX postings concering it for years and am ready to give it a go.  Should I wait until next winter?

  Our Jiro was growing rather well until the late freeze (it blossomed for the first time this spring), and I'm wondering if I should get another Jiro or if its demise indicates it's not that well suited to this climate.  I have a Saijo I just planted last February and it was starting to leaf out as well at the frost so those leaves died, but it came back nicely.  We live near Atlanta, Zone 7, but our temperatures rarely dip under 10 degrees.

  Thanks for any input on this question, and thanks to all for your postings; I've learned a lot from them.

  Melinda McCuan

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