[NAFEX] anecdotal evidence

Thomas Olenio tolenio at sentex.net
Tue Apr 17 12:55:46 EDT 2007


My point was that you assumed it was your cellular telephone.  There are
about 1,000 other environmental factors that could have caused your bee
attack.  Causes ranging from barometric pressure, to temperature change, to
a bee returning from a distance that was agitated by a remote cause that
perceived you as a threat to the hive.

If I was to state that bread causes death, because all people who eat bread
eventually die I would be all wet.  Sure people eat bread, and sure people
die, but there is no direct linkage.

If cell phones caused bee attacks, imagine the tsunami of unprovoked bee
attacks that would have already occurred in the past ten years.  We would
already be aware of the relationship due to the sheer number of cell phones
out there.


-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Terry Bradshaw
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:13 PM
To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] anecdotal evidence

I never suggested that this was evidence that cell phones kill bees, and 
frankly doubt that story myself.  I just piped in that my phone really 
ticked them off.


>Message: 3
>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:21:25 -0400
>From: "Thomas Olenio" <tolenio at sentex.net>
>Subject: [NAFEX] Anecdotal evidence
>To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>Message-ID: <000501c780ea$eb396be0$3e8b0740 at userd5c77564e4>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>Anecdotal evidence:  Anecdotal evidence is unreliable evidence based on
>personal experience that has not been empirically tested, and which is
>used in an argument as if it had been scientifically or statistically
>proven. The person using anecdotal evidence may or may not be aware of the
>fact that, by doing so, they are generalizing.
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:05 AM
>To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Bee shortage hypothesis
>I was once planting a research block in a grower orchard during bloom.  
>Went by the hives numerous times with no problems.  Then my phone rang 
>and I was swarmed and stung multiple times.  It wasn't the sound of the 
>ringing because the phone rang well away from the hive, but when I got 
>within 50 feet of it with a call going, they attacked.
>Food for thought.

Terence Bradshaw
Calais, VT 1450 feet, zone 4


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