[NAFEX] Boron and other things

David W Hausmann wizard2468 at juno.com
Thu Apr 5 20:59:27 EDT 2007

'Ello, All!
        Yes, I am a long haired hippie freak, actually.  I am
concentrating on selling Missouri native plants in Saint Louis, Missouri
and my business is a member of the Grow Native! organization
[www.grownative.org].  No biggie, just could not resist answering the
question posed. hahaha  Have a Good One!  Love, Peace and Perception

David W, Hausmann
Wizard's Plants
Mobile Systems

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:16:34 -0500 <dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com>
My point is that there are some apple growers that have no choice in
using chemicals because some pests are just too prolific in their
geographic area to sucessfully use organics.  To say that this choice is
superstition and utter bilge is the same as saying those who grow
organically are just a bunch of long haired hippie freaks. (None of you
are long haired hippie freaks, are you?!?)  I greatly admire those who
are able to grow fruit entirely organically.  Provived they do not use
any pyrethrum, neem, sabadilla, and rotenone, as well as insecticidal
soaps and sprays such as kaolin that are certified "organic".  As we all
know, there are some organic sprays that are more toxic than
organo-phosphates or neonicitinoids and that's my other point. 

First, it is important to address the common misperception that organic
farming is“pesticide-free.” Organic farmers are allowed to use a number
of toxic chemical pesticides, and many organic crops are routinely
sprayed with pesticides.

The fundamental difference between organic and synthetic pesticides is
not their toxicity, but their origin—whether they are extracted from
natural plants, insects, or mineral oresor are chemically synthesized. In
fact, some organic pesticides have mammaliantoxicities that are far
higher than many synthetic pesticides.  Consider the “warning label” text
on the label of a neem-based organic insecticide.   While organic farmers
promote their use of non-chemical pest control strategies, such as crop
rotation and beneficial insects, they still can and some do use chemical
pesticideswhen pests threaten their crops.

The most heavily used pesticide on organic farms is the toxin from the
soil bacteria Bacillus thuringiensis, commonly referred to as Bt.
However, because Bt sprays are a formulation of living bacteria, they
cannot be measured in pounds per acre of active chemical ingredient as
are other organic and synthetic pesticides.

Copper, an organic fungicide, is the 18th most used pesticide in the
United States. Over13 million pounds of copper were applied to 54 crops
in 1997. Copper, oil, and sulfurcombined accounted for a full 25% of U.S.
pesticide use.

There are quite a number of additional organic pesticides, including
insecticidal botanicalextracts such as pyrethrum, neem, sabadilla, and
rotenone, as well as insecticidal soaps and sprays such as kaolin.
Surprisingly, government regulators and authorities have no statistics at
all on the use of any organic pesticide other than oil, sulfur, Bt, and
copper,despite the fact that millions of pounds of these other organic
pesticides are used everyyear in the United States.  
This lack of government oversight is somewhat puzzling because many
organic pesticides are used more intensively per acre than non-organic
pesticides because of the lower effectiveness of organic pesticides
compared to their synthetic counterparts.  So who's the more
Just some food for thought.
Dennis Norton
Royal Oak Farm Orchard

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