[NAFEX] elderberries under black-walnuts

tanis cuff tanistanis at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 28 13:00:56 EDT 2006

Let us know if the elderberries over-top & shade the multifloras.  Would be 
nice to know something competes w/ those!  I don't want to think what your 
harvesting will be like, w/ the multiflor thorns in the way.

Did anyone mention soil quality re tolerance of black walnut toxin?  Listers 
have pointed out elderberries like sun, probably hurt by shade more than the 
toxin, but I've noticed more success w/ those things which "won't grow under 
black walnuts" if the soil is very good.

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From: Peter Chrisbacher <>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] elderberries under black-walnuts
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:47:57 -0400

Tanis, Stephen and others -

Thanks for the elderberry follow-up!  I'm the one who originally posed
the question a while back.

My three elderberries went in this spring, all beneath a large black
walnut in our side yard.  They haven't seemed to have had any
difficulties so far, and I saw and cut quite a few yellow roots while
planting them.  I don't expect them to thrive, as they're really not
getting enough sun where they are, though I'm keeping competing weeds
down with leaf mulch, so that should give them a little boost.

Whem I put them in, I pruned them back pretty well, and for fun, stuck
some of the cuttings in pots - they're also doing well!  I'll plant them
in a low spot in a corn field near my bee hives and see how they compete
with multiflora rose ;-)

Pete Chrisbacher
SE PA - Zone 6B

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