[NAFEX] Centennial

loneroc loneroc at mwt.net
Sat Sep 10 09:01:42 EDT 2005


Tanis,

My Centennial was purchased from Southmeadow 12-15 years ago.  I'm quite
sure that it is, as claimed, on M7 because of the suckers thrown.  The tree
was moved once about eight years ago and is about 10 feet tall max--about
the size of a typical apple cultivar on M9 and smaller than my similarly
aged Vista Bella tree on M26.  Centennial is supposed to be a natural
semi-dwarf--my experience is consistent with that claim.  However I found a
"standard" tree of Centennial (it is unmistakable) at a farm a few miles
from me (no doubt mail ordered from Jung's 50 years ago) that is thirty feet
tall or more and wide spreading.  A tree at the U of Wisc. Arboretum is as
large as any other in their crabapple collection, so I wouldn't count on the
tree remaining small on a standard rootstock.  My tree is sort of weeping
and is very easy to prune.  I suspect that a tree on standard stock would be
easy to manage and give more fruit----fast.

Steve H.  Lone Rock, WI


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tanis cuff" <tanistanis at hotmail.com>
To: <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Dolgo crab


> Depending on the person rating the disease or maybe the climate it's grown
> in, some rate Dolgo as more scab susceptible.  I saw huge difs in scab
> infection in other cvs this year-- VERY dry-- compared to a rainy year.
>
> I was interested in the pedigree of Centennial because I grafted some this
> spring, it failed completely on MM111 and barely grew on Bud.118, and
looks
> like baccata rather than regular apple.  I was about to destroy all my
> volunteer baccata trees, but now I might save 1 or 2 for top-working w/
> Centennial (& maybe Dolgo!)
>
> tc, s.WI, lite soil (tho incredibly green considering the drought), seeing
> more & more baccata weeds
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "kieran or donna" <>
> To: <nafex>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Dolgo crab
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 19:54:20 -0500
>
> ....the baccata parentage of Dolgo
>
> Dolgo is wonderful!  It never has a speck of disease, keeps it's leaves
all
> summer when other crabapples go bald here.  The fruit are attractive, look
> like plums actually, and they fall when they are just right, though I have
> been known to actually pick some off the tree.  The flavor is really sweet
> and really sour, kids love them, though you can't eat very many.  Most
years
> I remembered to get over to the college to pick them up.  I washed,
cooked,
> and sieved them for wonderful dark reddish apple butter.  Unfortunately
the
> college knocked down the building next to the two trees and I didn't
realize
> the trees were going too.  Never did get a graft off it, kept meaning to.
>      Unless Centennial has some advantages over Dolgo, I'd go with Dolgo.
> Is
> it disease resistant?  Oh, stupid question coming from me, all I have to
do
> is consult Father Fiala's book... " disease resistant over 20 years of
> testing, with only an occasional mild scab".  Sounds like it may be a bit
> bigger than Dolgo.  Says Dolgo is subject to slight acab and fireblight.
> Donna
>
>
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