[NAFEX] "Date plum" persimmon, Diospyros lotus

Lon J. Rombough lonrom at hevanet.com
Thu Nov 17 13:11:28 EST 2005

Just had a letter from a man in Victoria, BC who asked for a fruit 
identification.  It was D. Lotus, and with a big crop.  He said it had 
one seed per fruit and was the only tree of the species around, but 
there were D. kaki trees nearby.  The D. lotus tree most likely was a 
rootstock that had sprouted after the D. kaki top had died.
One complication is that in American, and sometimes in Kaki, female 
trees can produce limbs of male flowers.  Males don't usually produce 
limbs of female flowers, but under stress, some males have been found 
to produce perfect flowers.
There is a lot more about this, but suffice it to say that some 
persimmons can set seedless fruit without males around, and some can 
produce their own male flowers.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at 
http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association 
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
On Nov 17, 2005, at 9:53 AM, bassem at gardener.com wrote:

I've recently visited the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens. They have the 
date plum persimmon "D. Lotus". The tree was loaded with chocolated 
colored fruits, they were seedless and quite tasty. I've seen trees 
before here in pa, grown at Bob Seips farm. He has more than 1 tree all 
trees were loaded with marble size fruit, he has a variety named wild 
korean, but the fruits had more seeds than pulp.
Does anyone have experience growing that persimmon? I'm trying to find 
out whether it's self-fertile or not.
The tree that was planted alone produced seedless fruits, the one 
planted with other mates produced seeded fruits.

Bass Samaan
zone 6
Bethlehem, pa

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