[NAFEX] Pomegranate

lee reich lreich at hvc.rr.com
Sat Dec 3 17:14:12 EST 2005


You've spurred my interest -- how would I get one of those varieties  
to try, especially Severkhrannly?


Lee Reich, PhD
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On Dec 3, 2005, at 11:47 AM, MARIE ASHTON wrote:

> As you know, zone 4/5 is just too cold for in ground pomegranates,  
> pots are the only way.
> There is a variety called "Severkhranniy" the name means super  
> early that ripens in some areas in early August. It is a sweet  
> tasting variety. The very early ripening, dispenses with the need  
> for long summers and some of the heat requirements. Now as to  
> blooming and setting fruit, most of the varieties that have been  
> tried were breed in either Florida or California, the orignal wild  
> pomegranates in Central Asia have been blooming and setting fruit  
> in a cold climate for centuries. The varieties that have been breed/ 
> found in the colder areas of Russia/Central Asia are a better bet  
> to bloom and set fruit in cooler area it appears. The pomegranate  
> is a very adaptable plant if natural selection is used. There are  
> very low growing wild pomegranates growing in areas of Central Asia  
> with winter temperatures of  15 below(F).
> You are very right about the standard US varieties not being worth  
> the trouble in these colder areas.
> There are a lot of other factors that those I just mentioned above,  
> to achieve good fruiting, that is why site testing is needed for  
> these Russian/Central Asian varieties.
> Richard Ashton
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lee reich
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Pomegranate
>
> I got around the winter kill problem for pomegranates here in zone  
> 4/5 by growing my plant in a pot which I kept in cool storage after  
> it went dormant for the winter. The problem is that after 5-10  
> years, the plant had still never bloomed. I finally got rid of the  
> plant. Any suggestions, beyond the obvious, for the lack of  
> blossoming?
>
> It seems to me that another limitation for pomegranate in the in  
> the northern areas of eastern U.S. would be that there would be  
> insufficient heat and time to ripen the fruits well. Not to mention  
> untimely rains splitting the fruits open. All of which is why I  
> chose to grow mine in pots, where I could get the plants growing  
> early and then ripen them, if needed, in the greenhouse.
>
> Lee Reich, PhD
> www.leereich.com
>
> Books by Lee Reich:
> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
> A Northeast Gardener's Year
> The Pruning Book
> Weedless Gardening
>
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:03 PM, MARIE ASHTON wrote:
>
>> Are you in 6a or 6b?    6b is down to -5 and there are some  
>> possible varieties that might work. 6a at down to -10 is a little  
>> chancey but worth a try. Since pomegranates bear fruit on new wood  
>> you do not have to worry about buds being killed. If you have a  
>> winter snow cover then there is also a variety that might  work  
>> (under the snow cover).
>> But to state again 6b is a good possibility with the new (in the  
>> US) Russian/Central Asian varieties. The varieties that I would  
>> recommend are "Kazake" or "Salavatski". "Agat" if under snow cover  
>> (a low growing, good fruiting
>> pomegranate). If want to try one let me know and I will try to see  
>> that you get one to try, but pomegranates like a lot of fruit  
>> trees do not reach their best cold hardiness until about the third  
>> year and would need to be somewhat protected the first two years.
>> Richard Ashton
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ginda Fisher
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Pomegranate
>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:02 PM, MARIE ASHTON wrote:
>>
>>> How many of you are interested in pomegranates. It seems that  
>>> many people think they are too much trouble to eat. They are  
>>> somewhat troublesome, but some think they are worth the  
>>> trouble.   The easiest  way to utilize them is to juice them with  
>>> a common citrus/orange press, that's just a pressure press not  
>>> the kind with the reamer as that kind will get the partation  
>>> material and skin into the juice and that is bitter (tannin).  
>>> There are a lot of new varieties available now and some cold  
>>> hardy ones.
>>> Richard Ashton
>>> zone 7b/8a Central Texas
>>
>>
>> I am interested in pomegranate, but here in zone 6, I think I will  
>> have to content myself with indoor plants.  If anyone knows of a  
>> pomegranate hardy to zone 6, though, I'd be excited to try it.
>>
>> Ginda
>> eastern MA, zone 6
>>
>>
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