[NAFEX] Elderberries Question

Teghtmeyer, Suzanne R srt175f at smsu.edu
Fri Apr 8 15:13:37 EDT 2005

Hi all,
Last fall I created a website of all of the elderberry resources (book,
extension publications, articles, and websites) I could find pertaining
to elderberry culture (not so much on the medicinal qualities, just
growing and pest control).
With this thread, I looked through the links and couldn't find many
images of the varieties mentioned, but hopefully the culture and pest
control information will be of assistance to some of you.
----Suzi Teghtmeyer
Paul Evans Library of Fruit Science
Missouri State Fruit Experiment Station and Mid-America Viticulture and
Enology Center, 
Southwest Missouri State University, Mountain Grove Campus
Evans Library Homepage: http://library.smsu.edu/paulevans/
AgNIC Viticulture site:
Email: srt175f at smsu.edu
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[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Brungardt, Sam
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:15 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Elderberries Question
I don't know whether the elderberries you've received from the Mo. Dept.
of Conservation are seedlings or plants grown from root cuttings.  My
guess is that they're seedlings because I'd think the department would
want to maximize genetic diversity.  If they're seedlings, you only need
to plant two plants near each other.
Had they been grown from root cuttings (the way named cultivars are), it
would probably be prudent to plant in groups of three to five plants to
increase the chance of having plants of at least two genetic
compositions together to cross pollinate. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul,
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of David W Hausmann
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:17 AM
To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Elderberries Question
        I live in Missouri and the state Department of Conservation
sells trees and bushes once a year and I have been buying many over the
last 4 years.  They sell bundles of 25 trees or bushes for $25.  This is
the first year that they have had elderberries on the list and I have a
bundle coming in May, along with about 300 other trees.  I ordered
blackberries from them last year and they are growing like crazy.  You
mention that elderberries are not self fertile.  What do I need to do to
have them produce berries?  Also, when I get them in the ground and get
some growth from the elderberries I can attach a pic or 2 if that would
help at all.
        Have a Good One!  Love, Peace and Perception
Saint Louis, Missouri
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:15:26 -0500 "Brungardt, Sam"
<Sam.Brungardt at state.mn.us> writes:
> Doc, it's probably one of the cultivars that are in the trade, such as
> Adams, Johns, Kent, Scotia, Nova, or York (most, if not all of 
> these
> were developed in Nova Scotia and New York State).  Actually, there 
> are
> probably two cultivars growing there, because elderberries are not 
> self
> fertile.  There's a elderberry cultivar trial underway in Missouri, 
> and
> perhaps cultivars that do well in that more southerly climate there
> might also do well in South Carolina.  For more info, see
> http://aes.missouri.edu/swcenter/fieldday/page48.stm. -- Sam 
> Brungardt,
> St. Paul, Minn.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Doc Lisenby
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:49 AM
> To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [NAFEX] Elderberries Question
> I drive past a house periodically where there is a  tree about six 
> feet tall
> which bears a very heavy crop of what appears to be elderberries 
> every
> year. 
> The owner is never home for me to ask him or her what variety it is 
> or 
> whether it actually an elderberry.  It is fenced in and I can't get
> closer 
> than about ten feet to it.
> I remember seeing wild elderberries in the Pine Barrens of New 
> Jersey 
> similarly bearing such crops but they were annual bushes if I 
> remember 
> correctly.  I have tried several varieties here in South Carolina
> without 
> getting near the amount of berries this specimen bears.  Anyone have 
> any
> ideas as to what variety this could be?  Or if it is possible that a
> similar 
> species could be mistaken for elderberry?  The leaves look just like 
> elderberry leaves and the berries are the same color and size. Doc
> Lisenby Zone 7/8
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