[NAFEX] converted willingly

Heron Breen breen at fedcoseeds.com
Wed Oct 27 10:00:39 EDT 2004


Bruce, I know it is hard to patient with the process here, but we still have to
bring these issues formally to the board and the rest of NAFEX. It may take
another year before the involvement we have all been formulating comes to pass.
We all have families, jobs, other distractions like getting the harvest in before
freeze up etc. I think we will all see the fruit of these fertile discussions but
not with two weeks. As a nursery type person, folks are only now formulating
their plantings next year and past Christmas you will start getting requests.
Also, please put your auction idea into Pomona and that will bring a lot more
responses. We have to follow the slow sometimes laborious and tedious process of
incorporating as many ideas as possible, and recruiting a broad base of support.
I lot of people I know barely read their list-serve weekly, and then only
skimming for important stuff. It is time for us all to start working on our
letters, and helping others to round out theirs. Badgering folks is only going to
push them away. I know, I have done it. This time we need inclusion, patience,
and to be in it for the long haul. I really appreciate your desire for change,
and your forcefulness can push us out of ruts, but we risk the consequences of
sabotaging efforts by blasting folks with too strong a message. 
Truly with respect,
Heron

On Wed Oct 27  7:55 , 'Bruce Hansen' <brucedhansen at sbcglobal.net> sent:

>Taking Heron's point, NAFEX members have duties and responsibilities. One of
>the responsibilities is to fund your organization. I realize that those on
>the list-serv represent about 10% of the membership, perhaps less. Many on
>the list-serv are not members. It appears that all you folk do is talk and
>talk and talk, yawn! You never do anything, apparently. Asking y'all for
>$10.00 to NAFEX is like lying on your back and spitting at the stars. I
>asked that each of us purchase three memberships for others. Wow $39.00!!
>You would think you were asking for $39,000.00. What a bunch of tight-wads.
>Shame on you!! I even had one person state "I do not know anyone who would
>want a membership". Egads!! Use your telephone directory. Pick three people
>at random who have fruit-like last names and buy them a membership. Another
>person wanted to know what the money would be used for. What kind of a
>question is that when, to all intents and purposes, no one will contribute
>one red cent?
>
>Perhaps we are lucky that most of you won't write letters for POMONA. Why
>expose the rest of the membership, who find using computers demeaning, to
>selfish and self centered attitudes.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
>[nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org','','','')">nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On
Behalf Of Charles Paradise
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:58 AM
>To: North American Fruit Explorers
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] converted willingly
>
>
>Writing article is a little like preparing a lecture, then getting up and
>delivering it while everybody else listens.
>
>A round-robin is more like a note we passed around in class while the
>teacher was out of the room.  ["Did you watch Outer Limits last night?"
>"Let's go to Andy's after school]
>
>I haven't written enough articles for Pomona - why can't we used this email
>form here to show our work at its current state and ask the others to
>respond helpfully to help us finish our stuff up so it can be submitted?
>
>Charlie Paradise
>out of ink in Massachusetts
>
>Heron Breen wrote:
>
>there is a place for an on-line
>
>> Pomona. Taking it a step further, I think if we can create a round-robin
>effect,
>> such as Lon describes as the original intent of Pomona by looking
>presenting what
>> is discussed on the list as discussion points for members, and also
>seriously
>> looking at what non-list letters bring up, we can comment on each other. I
>guess I
>> am grasping to integrate the two, and still keep the focus to diversify
>and lengthn
>> Pomona. How to increase involvement...how to get folks to
>participate....Can't
>> force anyone to write, but I am still intrigued by the old requirement
>that writing
>> was the duty of members.
>
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