[NAFEX] figs,mulberry and jujuge oh my!

Needham Greg needhamgr at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 25 11:52:53 EDT 2003


Rob,
     Thanks for your understanding!  I will try to keep reporting as my 
evaluation of these cultivars continues!  Let me know how your information 
comes out and what you end up growing, etc.  Jujubes are very worthwhile for 
me!

Greg

>From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] figs,mulberry and jujuge oh my!
>Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Well, maybe sometime later then.
>The SFF meeting is going to be in Elizebeth City, NC
>July 31st - Aug3rd
>I can send you the schedule if you want.
>
>Thanx for the tip on the Jujube Primer, I will try to
>get in touch Roger.
>--- Needham Greg <needhamgr at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Robert!  To be honest, my life is so full of
> > work, family, etc. that I
> > will have to wait until I retire to join SFF!!  I
> > barely have a free minute,
> > no kidding.  Plus we are not set up very well to
> > receive visitors-we are
> > running around all over the place and my orchard is
> > patroled by a couple of
> > huge dogs that will literally eat anyone who wanders
> > over the fence.  Where
> > is the meeting going to be, and when?  It is nice to
> > share jujube info and
> > enthusiasm; maybe we could set up a meeting.  But
> > the most efficient way to
> > communicate with me has got to be email- I check my
> > mail frequently and find
> > a spare minute here and there to respond.  I should
> > put some digital photos
> > on sometime for people to see what the fruit and
> > trees are like.  They
> > really are a joy to grow, for me and my family.
> > Some people don't think
> > much of them- just like some people don't like
> > tomatoes or cukes- but to me
> > variety really is the spice of life!  See some of my
> > other posts for contact
> > info for Roger Meyer, who sells lots of different
> > jujubes and THE book on
> > the subject if you want to know more.  Great stuff!
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > >From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [NAFEX] figs,mulberry and jujuge oh
> > my!
> > >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Hey thanx for all the information!
> > >Are you going to the SFF meeting? If so, I would
> > like
> > >to meet you and discuss this further. I am aware of
> > >only a few varieties. Maybe if you have a spare
> > moment
> > >after the meeting, I would like to stop by your
> > >orchard on the way back to Atlanta and see some of
> > >these tree?
> > >
> > >Robert
> > >
> > >--- Needham Greg <needhamgr at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Rob,
> > > >      Jujubes are one of my favorite plants!  I
> > have
> > > > put together a modest
> > > > collection over the past several years; here are
> > > > some of my observations so
> > > > far that might help:
> > > > I have a mixed planting of cultivars I hoped
> > might
> > > > succeed in the humid
> > > > southeast and provide pollen for each other-
> > > > Sherwood, Silverhill,
> > > > Fitzgerald, Abbeville, Admiral Wilkes, Li, Honey
> > > > Jar, GA866, Suan Tsao, and
> > > > Sugar Cane.  I also let a rootstock grow up for
> > > > comparison.  Each cultivar
> > > > seems to have its own personality, so for
> > example,
> > > > in terms of which are
> > > > more productive,  each year since it was very
> > small
> > > > Honey Jar has put on all
> > > > the fruit it could hold, while Sherwood (on its
> > own
> > > > roots) which is a couple
> > > > years older is just now setting a few fruit.  My
> > Li
> > > > usually has a very
> > > > modest crop, though I have had it the longest,
> > while
> > > > Fitzgerald, Abbeville,
> > > > Silverhill, and Admiral Wilkes will set an
> > > > unbelievable number of jujubes.
> > > > Vigor really varies too- Silverhill, Admiral
> > Wilkes
> > > > and Fitzgerald shoot up
> > > > each year like crazy, but Honey jar and GA866
> > have
> > > > been much slower (I
> > > > should point out that it has usually taken a
> > season
> > > > of getting
> > > > well-established for all of my jujubes before
> > they
> > > > really are happy and
> > > > start to grow well).  They like a lot of sun and
> > to
> > > > be fed and also watered
> > > > if it is dry- this will help ripen a full crop!
> > > > Once established they are
> > > > pretty tough!  My jujubes attract the most
> > > > incredibly diverse collection of
> > > > pollen- and nectar-hungry insects!  We see all
> > kinds
> > > > of ants, miniature
> > > > bee-like creatures, flies in all sorts of
> > > > irridescent colors, and some
> > > > insects so small I can't tell what they are...
> > > > It is a fascinating show to watch, standing
> > among
> > > > the jujubes on an
> > > > afternoon and breathing in the grape soda smell
> > > > produced by the flowers.
> > > > Honey bees, etc. don't go near my jujubes, but
> > the
> > > > other little helpers do
> > > > the job nicely.  I have had zero problems with
> > > > insects, disease or even
> > > > birds eating the fruit, but my children and I
> > eat
> > > > all we can hold every
> > > > year.  Flavor varies among cultivars and with
> > some
> > > > tasting better at
> > > > different stages- some need to be red-brown,
> > others
> > > > are good when just
> > > > turning yellow, etc.
> > > > This turned into a long message as I was trying
> > to
> > > > piece together an answer
> > > > to your question of how to get the tree to fruit
> > > > better!  I would say plant
> > > > the cultivars that have been really productive
> > for
> > > > me (Silverhill,
> > > > Abbeville, Fitzgerald, Admiral Wilkes, Suan
> > Tsao,
> > > > etc.)  But I wonder if
> > > > there is some pollination magic happening that I
> > am
> > > > unaware of?  What if my
> > > > most productive cultivars are able to be so
> > because
> > > > of pollen from one of
> > > > the others?  This is one reason I tried to plant
> > > > enough different jujubes to
> > > > make sure there was plenty of pollen for all.
> > As
> > > > for dwarfing, some of my
> > > > plants grow smaller and others larger, though I
> > > > don't know about the
> > > > eventual mature size of any of them- to me it
> > looks
> > > > like GA866 will be
> > > > pretty dwarfy.
> > > > I hope this helps!  Besides my own experience,
> > my
> > > > source for info on jujubes
> > > > (and the source for most of my plants) is Roger
> > > > Meyer- thank goodness he has
> > > > done so much work with jujubes, rescuing
> > material
> > > > from the Chico Research
> > > > station (like GA866!) and writing his Jujube
> > Primer
> > > > and Sourcebook!
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > > zone 7/8
> > > > coastal plain of North Carolina
> > > >
> > > > >From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga at yahoo.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > > > <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > > >To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > > > <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > > >Subject: [NAFEX] figs,mulberry and jujuge oh
> > my!
> > > > >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:38:50 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >I was going to wait till the SFF meeting next
> > month
> > > > to
> > > > >ask some of these question, but maybe some
> > people
> > > > here
> > > > >may be able to help as well.
> > > > >
> > > > >Fig--
> > > > >    Has anyone tried growing different fig
> > > > varieties on
> > > > >Blackjack fig rootstock to see if it will dwarf
> > the
> > > > >growth?
> > > > >
> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
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