[NAFEX] figs,mulberry and jujuge oh my!

rob hamilton lostman_amiga at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 24 19:25:16 EDT 2003


Well, maybe sometime later then.
The SFF meeting is going to be in Elizebeth City, NC
July 31st - Aug3rd
I can send you the schedule if you want.

Thanx for the tip on the Jujube Primer, I will try to
get in touch Roger.
--- Needham Greg <needhamgr at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Robert!  To be honest, my life is so full of
> work, family, etc. that I 
> will have to wait until I retire to join SFF!!  I
> barely have a free minute, 
> no kidding.  Plus we are not set up very well to
> receive visitors-we are 
> running around all over the place and my orchard is
> patroled by a couple of 
> huge dogs that will literally eat anyone who wanders
> over the fence.  Where 
> is the meeting going to be, and when?  It is nice to
> share jujube info and 
> enthusiasm; maybe we could set up a meeting.  But
> the most efficient way to 
> communicate with me has got to be email- I check my
> mail frequently and find 
> a spare minute here and there to respond.  I should
> put some digital photos 
> on sometime for people to see what the fruit and
> trees are like.  They 
> really are a joy to grow, for me and my family. 
> Some people don't think 
> much of them- just like some people don't like
> tomatoes or cukes- but to me 
> variety really is the spice of life!  See some of my
> other posts for contact 
> info for Roger Meyer, who sells lots of different
> jujubes and THE book on 
> the subject if you want to know more.  Great stuff!
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> >From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers
> <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> >To: North American Fruit Explorers
> <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> >Subject: Re: [NAFEX] figs,mulberry and jujuge oh
> my!
> >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hey thanx for all the information!
> >Are you going to the SFF meeting? If so, I would
> like
> >to meet you and discuss this further. I am aware of
> >only a few varieties. Maybe if you have a spare
> moment
> >after the meeting, I would like to stop by your
> >orchard on the way back to Atlanta and see some of
> >these tree?
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >--- Needham Greg <needhamgr at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Rob,
> > >      Jujubes are one of my favorite plants!  I
> have
> > > put together a modest
> > > collection over the past several years; here are
> > > some of my observations so
> > > far that might help:
> > > I have a mixed planting of cultivars I hoped
> might
> > > succeed in the humid
> > > southeast and provide pollen for each other-
> > > Sherwood, Silverhill,
> > > Fitzgerald, Abbeville, Admiral Wilkes, Li, Honey
> > > Jar, GA866, Suan Tsao, and
> > > Sugar Cane.  I also let a rootstock grow up for
> > > comparison.  Each cultivar
> > > seems to have its own personality, so for
> example,
> > > in terms of which are
> > > more productive,  each year since it was very
> small
> > > Honey Jar has put on all
> > > the fruit it could hold, while Sherwood (on its
> own
> > > roots) which is a couple
> > > years older is just now setting a few fruit.  My
> Li
> > > usually has a very
> > > modest crop, though I have had it the longest,
> while
> > > Fitzgerald, Abbeville,
> > > Silverhill, and Admiral Wilkes will set an
> > > unbelievable number of jujubes.
> > > Vigor really varies too- Silverhill, Admiral
> Wilkes
> > > and Fitzgerald shoot up
> > > each year like crazy, but Honey jar and GA866
> have
> > > been much slower (I
> > > should point out that it has usually taken a
> season
> > > of getting
> > > well-established for all of my jujubes before
> they
> > > really are happy and
> > > start to grow well).  They like a lot of sun and
> to
> > > be fed and also watered
> > > if it is dry- this will help ripen a full crop!
> > > Once established they are
> > > pretty tough!  My jujubes attract the most
> > > incredibly diverse collection of
> > > pollen- and nectar-hungry insects!  We see all
> kinds
> > > of ants, miniature
> > > bee-like creatures, flies in all sorts of
> > > irridescent colors, and some
> > > insects so small I can't tell what they are...
> > > It is a fascinating show to watch, standing
> among
> > > the jujubes on an
> > > afternoon and breathing in the grape soda smell
> > > produced by the flowers.
> > > Honey bees, etc. don't go near my jujubes, but
> the
> > > other little helpers do
> > > the job nicely.  I have had zero problems with
> > > insects, disease or even
> > > birds eating the fruit, but my children and I
> eat
> > > all we can hold every
> > > year.  Flavor varies among cultivars and with
> some
> > > tasting better at
> > > different stages- some need to be red-brown,
> others
> > > are good when just
> > > turning yellow, etc.
> > > This turned into a long message as I was trying
> to
> > > piece together an answer
> > > to your question of how to get the tree to fruit
> > > better!  I would say plant
> > > the cultivars that have been really productive
> for
> > > me (Silverhill,
> > > Abbeville, Fitzgerald, Admiral Wilkes, Suan
> Tsao,
> > > etc.)  But I wonder if
> > > there is some pollination magic happening that I
> am
> > > unaware of?  What if my
> > > most productive cultivars are able to be so
> because
> > > of pollen from one of
> > > the others?  This is one reason I tried to plant
> > > enough different jujubes to
> > > make sure there was plenty of pollen for all. 
> As
> > > for dwarfing, some of my
> > > plants grow smaller and others larger, though I
> > > don't know about the
> > > eventual mature size of any of them- to me it
> looks
> > > like GA866 will be
> > > pretty dwarfy.
> > > I hope this helps!  Besides my own experience,
> my
> > > source for info on jujubes
> > > (and the source for most of my plants) is Roger
> > > Meyer- thank goodness he has
> > > done so much work with jujubes, rescuing
> material
> > > from the Chico Research
> > > station (like GA866!) and writing his Jujube
> Primer
> > > and Sourcebook!
> > >
> > > Greg
> > > zone 7/8
> > > coastal plain of North Carolina
> > >
> > > >From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga at yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > > <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > >To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > > <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > >Subject: [NAFEX] figs,mulberry and jujuge oh
> my!
> > > >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:38:50 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >I was going to wait till the SFF meeting next
> month
> > > to
> > > >ask some of these question, but maybe some
> people
> > > here
> > > >may be able to help as well.
> > > >
> > > >Fig--
> > > >    Has anyone tried growing different fig
> > > varieties on
> > > >Blackjack fig rootstock to see if it will dwarf
> the
> > > >growth?
> > > >
> 
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