[NAFEX] Native plums

Ed Fackler efackler at woh.rr.com
Thu Jun 19 17:01:26 EDT 2003


Hollywood is excellent quality and a fairly nice ornamental (maroon red
However, it is not completely compatible with a lot of common (domestica)

Possibly someone can tell us what stock is best suited for Hollywood.

All Red was mediocre at best in So. Indiana.

Ed, Ohio rain, rain, and rain

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From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Needham Greg
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:37 PM
To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org; hblack at twlakes.net
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Native plums

I have a couple of small seedling chickasaw plums around my place, plus one
tree of a cultivar (called "Guthrie", I think) I got a few years ago from
Mail Order Natives.  The little ones are just to the point of having bloomed
for the first time this spring, and the Guthrie tree has had a nice little
crop of plums- its first year with fruit.  We just ate the last few fruit,
and they were very yellow inside and out and pretty good.  No curculio
damage (though I had plenty on my apples :-)  This tree is really pretty,
and so far shows no sign of suckering, rather it is making a decent single
trunk.  I love plums, but until now have only ever seen plums around here
set huge crops only to rot every single fruit in a heartbreaking way.  This
makes me very excited about my chickasaw plums!   Does anyone know other
plums (or other Prunus spp. worth eating fresh) that can be grown in the
southeast that will produce good, usable crops without spraying?  I have
thought about trying Jan/Joy/Joel for pie cherries.....
What about All Red and Hollywood for plums?  Thanks-


>From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman at murraystate.edu>
>Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>To: hector black <hblack at twlakes.net>,North American Fruit Explorers
><nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: [NAFEX] Native plums
>Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:49:07 -0500
>At 08:40 AM 6/18/2003 -0700, Hector wrote:
>>  The only reliable fruiter we have is one I got some years ago called the
>>"Wild Goose Plum".  It seems to
>>be one of the natives.  Tart red blush skin and yellow flesh that makes
>>wonderful jam and not bad eating
>>if you don't mind the tart skin.
>>Only problem is sends up new trees for about 15 ft. around.  I just graft
>>them or
>>mow them.
>As a kid, I remember picking buckets full of native plums(I'm fairly
>certain they were P.angustifolia) from thickets growing at the edge of old
>abandoned fields on the 800 acre farm behind the house I grew up in, where
>my dad ran beef cattle.  There were some thickets that produced markedly
>better fruits than others - I remember one, in particular, that produced
>large(for the species) yellow-when-ripe fruits.  They were the best.  Yeah,
>there were some with curculio damage, but the majority were pretty clean.
>Even a couple of thickets of what my dad called sloes - bitter fruits, but
>I'm not at all certain that they were actually P.spinosa - don't recall the
>leaves being noticeably different, but that's been better than 35 years
>ago.  May have just been Chickasaw plums with poor fruit quality.
>I'm saving pits from this clump in the orchard to spread around edges &
>small openings around the farm, and will probably dig and transplant some
>suckers to the proximity of some of the wildlife foodplots this winter.
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