[NAFEX] "Sour Chari" and "CKVL#1": Joe Brown

Greg or Marie Jordan mgjordan at concentric.net
Tue Apr 15 21:36:52 EDT 2003

The only real insect problem I have in Colo. is BIRDS.
Greg Jordan
Zone / 5
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charles Paradise 
  To: North American Fruit Explorers 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:49 PM
  Subject: [NAFEX] "Sour Chari" and "CKVL#1": Joe Brown

  Joe Brown,
  You mention that in Kentucky, "Sour Chari" and "CKVL#1" have "no major insect or disease problems".
  I find this fascinating because the two sour cherries I have grown in the past, Montmorency and North Star, both had major insect problems, I mean I could not get any fruit at all without plenty of insecticide spraying. Since I have no time anymore for spraying, I'm asking for clarification, are you getting these cherries without any spraying? 

  Let me expand the question to others, is ANYBODY getting cherries without spraying? I have heard the statement made that a very small cherry will be unbothered because the cherry is too small for the insect to get into and lay eggs there's not enough room in the fruit to receive an egg deposit. Therefore, while we would all like big juicy cherries, is it possible for us to "settle" on a cherry variety that yields small fruit, but does not need spraying? And if it is possible for us to settle for us to "settle" on a small-cherry variety, is there any high-yielding small-cherry variety propagated? Or a specific strain grown from seed that will throw a cherry tree yielding small cherries?

  Charlie Paradise
  zone 5 / Massachusetts

  On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 08:29 AM, Brown, Joe R wrote:

    You wrote:


    A while back someone posted a method to access the Hidden Springs

    nursery catalog online and I noticed that Hidden Springs offer two sour

    cherries on Mahaleb rootstock (which I can't use). These two varieties

    were "Sour Chari" and "CKVL#1". Both were listed for zones 4-8. I

    searched around and couldn't find out anything worthwhile about either

    of these. Does anyone have additional information about either of these

    two varieties? Rodney in zone 4


    My response: 




    I have CKVL#1.  I got it 2 years ago – no major insect or disease problems.  It does get powdery mildew.  I have not tasted the cheeries but I may get some this year.   Post your question again this summer and I can tell you how they taste.



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