[NAFEX] Apple Rootstock: Budagowsky 118

list at ginda.us list at ginda.us
Sat Apr 5 10:31:13 EST 2003

Guys - I'm sorry this cam through as multiple attachments.  I tried to 
cut and paste text, but somehow it got turned into "images".  I'm not 
sure if I can fix that without retyping everything by hand.  If you 
can't read the images, I can forward the original e-mails to you.  It 
was just an e-mail question about B118 (which also showed up here), a 
reference to AppleCrop, and two replies from AppleCrop.


On Saturday, April 5, 2003, at 09:39  AM, list at ginda.us wrote:

> Here's another discussion from AppleCrop that I think would interest 
> folks in NAFEX.  The question was addressed to NAFEX, too, but the 
> answers in Applecrop were more interesting.  It might, for instance, 
> be a good rootstock for a deer-grazed orchard.
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> ======================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: apple-crop at virtualorchard.net
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:31 AM
> Subject: Apple-Crop: Budagowsky 118
> I'm in the process of grafting a bunch of trees for 2004 and am trying 
> out Bud 118 for the first time.  I don't hear many people discussing 
> this rootstock, yet what little I've heard about it has been quite 
> positive---especially for rough Northern winters.  Is there anyone on 
> the list who'd be willing to share their experiences with Bud 118?  
> I'm curious to hear what the downsides to it may be, aside from the 
> unwieldly size of the trees it can produce.  Which apple cultivars are 
> the best candidates for grafting onto the more 'standard' sized 
> rootstocks like Bud 118 and Antanovka?  Which should be avoided?
> Any/all feedback greatly appreciated.
> John
> * * * * *
> John A Gasbarre
> Sgroppino Farms
> Vinalhaven Island, Maine
> USDA Zone 5
>  =======================================
>  From: "Karl Townsend"
> Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003  5:46:47  AM US/Eastern
> To: "Apple-Crop" <apple-crop at virtualorchard.net>
> Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Budagowsky 118
> Reply-To: "Apple-Crop" <apple-crop at virtualorchard.net>
> I have been growing a great many trees on B118 on my site in central
> Minnesota. I learned its value in the winter of 90-91 - no snow, dry 
> fall,
> weeks of -35 F. Lost all of the M7, most of the M9. M26 and B118 never 
> knew
> it got cold.
> B118 is, of course, an M111 size tree or 50% of seedling. It has one
> important difference in that its extremely precocious. Crop it hard at 
> about
> years five and six and you can almost stop its growth. Leaving the 
> graft
> union high seems to make a little smaller tree. A little winter injury 
> to
> the scion kinda helps slow them down too <grin>.
> I'm getting poor growth on replant with M26 on my site,  B118 takes 
> this
> just fine.
> As for cultivars to avoid, stay away from large stuff like Cortland. 
> You'd
> have a monster tree.
> An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
> Two apples a day gets the doctor's OK.
> Five apples a day makes you a fruit grower, like me.
> Karl Townsend in beautiful Dassel,MN
> ===========================================
> From:  "Mitch Lynd"
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> Hi John!  We have some apples on Bud 118 that are about 12 or 13 years 
> old.  The most striking thing about Bud 118 is that it has the 
> precosity of much smaller and better known rootstocks in the range of 
> M9 to M26 but makes a huge seedling sized tree.  Until we grew Bud 118 
> we thought early production and big tree size were mutualy exclusive, 
> what a surprise. The trees have done well here in central Ohio.  Seems 
> to me they would be a really wise choice for the far North where folks 
> struggle for tree vigor and winter hardiness.  Its perfect for folks 
> here and South wanting to establish an orchard with an "antique look" 
> with the big  40 foot trees. It's the rootstock I would choose if I 
> were trying to set a record for maximum production per tree. We are 
> glad we have them to show folks what apple trees used to look like. 
> There are about 30 trees here and we've never seen fire blight, collar 
> rot, leaning, or any other negative traits. 
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