[nafex] Re: A note of consern about this forum

lostman_amiga lostman_amiga at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 28 13:55:14 EST 2002


Well, I have often found the archived information on here to be very 
useful. I usually do word searches of a fruit on here. There is alot 
of chatting that come up, but the chat/info ratio is quite good on 
here.  Maybe I am valuing this froum a bit to much as a information 
resource, but I guess I am like that. I seem to collect everyrthing 
else at home :) I think maybe be the fact that I am still new at this 
fruit growing, and I hunger for all kinds of information on the 
subject. Until I get a good library togather, I will value this forum 
......maybe more than I should. 


--- In nafex at y..., "Vintage Virginia Apples LLC" <fruit at v...> wrote:
> I think the points Mr. Miller raises speak to the heart of this 
issue.  This
> chat line and the NAFEX website serve different if related 
functions.
> Moreover, does anyone believe that a complete archive of the chat 
line would
> serve any real purpose?  It facilitates communications among 
interested
> people with often related interests and occasionally useful
> information relative to growing fruit and this exchange serves a 
useful
> purpose in itself, but toextract the useful from the plethora of 
chatter
> would require considerable editing  and indexing in my opinion and 
we would
> be better served to pursue the enhancement of the NAFEX website by 
other
> endeavors.  Perhaps some of us interested in this could summarize 
some of
> the more useful discussions and submit that to Pomona, which could 
be
> archived, and in any event, every member would have a copy to 
preserve or
> not as they wished.
> The Board of NAFEX has discussed ways to improve the website and is
> dedicated to doing just that, but I fail to see how hosting the chat 
line
> would serve that purpose well..  The resources available to the
> organization,  as I am sure all of you who are members of NAFEX and 
follow
> its proceedings are aware, are limited.  Constructive suggestions 
would
> certainly be welcomed, I am sure.
> 
> Charlotte Shelton
> Secretary, NAFEX
> 
> Vintage Virginia Apples, LLC
> P. O. Box 210
> North Garden, Virginia 22959
> 434.297.2326
> www.vintagevirginiaapples.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Miller" <gsmiller at c...>
> To: <nafex at y...>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [nafex] A note of consern about this forum
> 
> 
> > On 24 Jan 2002 at 15:40, Thomas Olenio wrote:
> >
> > > This has been discussed before.  The simple answer is to move 
the
> > > entire group and all it's archives to the NAFEX web page.
> > >
> > > The the list will be stable (no more OneList, Egroups, Yahoo
> > > shuffles), and the archives will exist as long as NAFEX.
> > >
> > > But that is for the illustrious leaders of NAFEX to handle.  
Could
> > > someone pass me an ice age?
> >
> > This has been discussed in the past, but I'm not sure that moving 
the
> discussion list
> > to a web page is necessarily simple or superior.  I assume Tom is 
talking
> about
> > discussion groups where members post messages to web-based 
discussion
> > threads, that are then accessed through that web page.
> >
> > Email offers the following advantages:
> > 1.  No need to frequently check the web page to see what messages 
have
> been
> > updated.  Messages automatically come to you.
> > 2.  Easy ability to store select messages in an email archive.
> > 3.  Messages can be downloaded and read later while not connected.
> > 4.  More user-friendly for dial-up users (like me) where the time 
spent
> loading web
> > pages for each post is much slower than viewing in email.
> >
> > There are advantages to web based message boards
> > 1.  Searchable for past articles, including before the readers
> subscription.  (However,
> > my archive of saved email messages is also available.)
> > 2.  Sorted by collapsable threads (although only to the extent 
that
> message headers
> > are responses and not new topics.)
> >
> > As far as the nuts and bolts, I don't know what software or server
> configuration is
> > necessary for a web based discussion group, or what costs are 
involved.
> (This list
> > is FREE.)  So I will have to defer to others about the difficulty 
of
> setting up a web-
> > based discussion list and or paying for it.  (As an aside, if it 
does
> involve costs, I
> > think there are problems with expecting NAFEX to pick up the tab, 
since
> the list has
> > members who are not NAFEX members, and many members who do not 
participate
> > in this list.)
> >
> > As Tom correctly notes, the final call on this one is up to the 
board,
> some of which
> > are members of this list.  Perhaps a motivated and generous 
benefactor
> could
> > handle any associated expenses.  And it sounds like we have a 
volunteer to
> do the
> > ground work necessary to get it up and keep it running.
> >
> > Even after this gets resolved in the near term, I somehow get the 
feeling
> that it will
> > be much less than an ice age before this issue comes up again.
> >
> > Greg Miller
> > (Stealth-mode) list administrator
> > Spokane, WA
> > Zone 6
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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