[nafex] A note of consern about this forum

Vintage Virginia Apples LLC fruit at vintagevirginiaapples.com
Mon Jan 28 08:39:16 EST 2002


I think the points Mr. Miller raises speak to the heart of this issue.  This
chat line and the NAFEX website serve different if related functions.
Moreover, does anyone believe that a complete archive of the chat line would
serve any real purpose?  It facilitates communications among interested
people with often related interests and occasionally useful
information relative to growing fruit and this exchange serves a useful
purpose in itself, but toextract the useful from the plethora of chatter
would require considerable editing  and indexing in my opinion and we would
be better served to pursue the enhancement of the NAFEX website by other
endeavors.  Perhaps some of us interested in this could summarize some of
the more useful discussions and submit that to Pomona, which could be
archived, and in any event, every member would have a copy to preserve or
not as they wished.
The Board of NAFEX has discussed ways to improve the website and is
dedicated to doing just that, but I fail to see how hosting the chat line
would serve that purpose well..  The resources available to the
organization,  as I am sure all of you who are members of NAFEX and follow
its proceedings are aware, are limited.  Constructive suggestions would
certainly be welcomed, I am sure.

Charlotte Shelton
Secretary, NAFEX

Vintage Virginia Apples, LLC
P. O. Box 210
North Garden, Virginia 22959
434.297.2326
www.vintagevirginiaapples.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Miller" <gsmiller at cet.com>
To: <nafex at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: [nafex] A note of consern about this forum


> On 24 Jan 2002 at 15:40, Thomas Olenio wrote:
>
> > This has been discussed before.  The simple answer is to move the
> > entire group and all it's archives to the NAFEX web page.
> >
> > The the list will be stable (no more OneList, Egroups, Yahoo
> > shuffles), and the archives will exist as long as NAFEX.
> >
> > But that is for the illustrious leaders of NAFEX to handle.  Could
> > someone pass me an ice age?
>
> This has been discussed in the past, but I'm not sure that moving the
discussion list
> to a web page is necessarily simple or superior.  I assume Tom is talking
about
> discussion groups where members post messages to web-based discussion
> threads, that are then accessed through that web page.
>
> Email offers the following advantages:
> 1.  No need to frequently check the web page to see what messages have
been
> updated.  Messages automatically come to you.
> 2.  Easy ability to store select messages in an email archive.
> 3.  Messages can be downloaded and read later while not connected.
> 4.  More user-friendly for dial-up users (like me) where the time spent
loading web
> pages for each post is much slower than viewing in email.
>
> There are advantages to web based message boards
> 1.  Searchable for past articles, including before the readers
subscription.  (However,
> my archive of saved email messages is also available.)
> 2.  Sorted by collapsable threads (although only to the extent that
message headers
> are responses and not new topics.)
>
> As far as the nuts and bolts, I don't know what software or server
configuration is
> necessary for a web based discussion group, or what costs are involved.
(This list
> is FREE.)  So I will have to defer to others about the difficulty of
setting up a web-
> based discussion list and or paying for it.  (As an aside, if it does
involve costs, I
> think there are problems with expecting NAFEX to pick up the tab, since
the list has
> members who are not NAFEX members, and many members who do not participate
> in this list.)
>
> As Tom correctly notes, the final call on this one is up to the board,
some of which
> are members of this list.  Perhaps a motivated and generous benefactor
could
> handle any associated expenses.  And it sounds like we have a volunteer to
do the
> ground work necessary to get it up and keep it running.
>
> Even after this gets resolved in the near term, I somehow get the feeling
that it will
> be much less than an ice age before this issue comes up again.
>
> Greg Miller
> (Stealth-mode) list administrator
> Spokane, WA
> Zone 6
>
>
>
>
>
>
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