[nafex] Gideon apple

JERROLD KOERNER j.f.koerner at worldnet.att.net
Wed May 9 13:52:21 EDT 2001

Claude and Vic, Last year I was apple exploring in upstate New York with my
son.  It was Labor Day weedend and we found a very ancient tree with pale
yellow conical shaped apples.  My son got to the tree first and took a bite
out of one of the apples and said "Hey Dad this tastes just like an Asian
pear."  The pale yellow skin was very thin, the flesh was white and very
sweet but not exactly crisp or hard.  It may have been a little past its
prime.  I sent photos to a few people and Lee Calhoun thought it might be
Golden Sweet.  The apples did not have any sign of a pink blush but could
this be a Gideon ?? They were fully ripe on Labor Day, when does Gideon
ripen ??  If I scanned my photos on my iMac computer and sent them to you
could either of you open them ???  Thanks  Jerry Appleseed

>From: "victoria l. caron" <vicaron at gis.net>
>To: nafex at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [nafex] Gideon apple
>Date: Tue, May 8, 2001, 5:03 AM

> Thank you Claude,
> That really sounds like the apple I found. Now if I can get back up there for
> some scion wood. People bought the old property and cut most of the trees down
> run cows in the fields. I was monitoring one of the trees that got cut there.
> also was pale yellow with a bright pink cheek. It was conical, quite late,
> hard and crunchy, snow white flesh with a refreshing taste. Everyone loved it.
> There was little scab that I remember, though I have not had enough time to
> determine if it is resistant, and it was very heavily spurred. I have one last
> hope that it is saved but won't know 'til the limb fruits. It is blooming this
> year, but I won't know until I see the fruit if I made a mistake tagging.
> Maybe I'll be lucky.
> If I can get scions of the SMT#2 apple and the Gideon from Daryl, I'll graft
> onto the same tree to compare. That is probably the best way to save time and
> accurate
> vic NH zone 3
> Claude Jolicoeur wrote:
>> Vic,
>> Gideon is an apple that is very well liked by Daryl Hunter in New
>> Brunswick. Daryl is a NAFEX member, but I don't think he is on this list.
>> He is however on the Apple-crop list and he wrote these lines about Gideon:
>> "One of the heritage varieties that I'd never part with is Gideon, with its
>> delicate skin and its very juicy, pear flavored flesh that often has water
>> core. This cold hardy variety is handsome to look at with its porcelain
>> like bright yellow skin and pink blush, and it seldom has scab even in our
>> scab prone region.  However, the very things I like about Gideon - the
>> tender skin and the sugary water core, make it a poor commercial apple.  It
>> is also strongly biennial."
>> If you want, I have a picture of Gideon that I could send off list to you.
>> Claude
>> A 10:11 01.05.07 +0000, vous avez écrit :
>> >ps - The companion tree to the crab I found seems to match Gideon. I don't
>> >know how this variety could have arrived in northern Vermont as one of three
>> >younger trees growing not far from the largest spreading Wolf River I have
>> >yet to find. I have eliminated all other early yellow blushed varieties and
>> >keep coming up with Gideon. Does anyone know of this variety being grown in
>> >the northeast?
>> >vic zone 3 NH
>> >
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