From burkholders at glenecofarm.com Tue Sep 1 20:52:51 2015 From: burkholders at glenecofarm.com (Marlin Burkholder) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 20:52:51 -0400 Subject: [Market-farming] Hornet and Wasp damage to Asian pears In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This afternoon I went out to pick Asian pears and encountered real disaster. We usually have about 10% damage from hornets and wasps biting or stinging the ripening fruit and leaving holes eaten into the fruit or rot spots around the bitten areas. I was thinking of spraying the trees with Surround a week or two before ripening to try to discourage them but was busy that week and didn?t get it done. When I went to picking I found well over 50% ruined fruit and that combined with Cedar-Apple rust damage (despite my efforts to keep the trees sprayed for that problem this summer), we have less than 25% marketable fruit and less than perfect at that. I was a pretty discouraged puppy when I came in this evening. We are in the middle of a late summer drought which makes me to suspect as a reason for the increased hornet and wasp damage. Does anyone have an effective strategy for dealing with these boogers? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstewart at zoomtown.com Wed Sep 2 08:30:04 2015 From: rstewart at zoomtown.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 08:30:04 -0400 Subject: [Market-farming] Hornet and Wasp damage to Asian pears In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EAA7A22-F032-438C-B37A-00892A06CA78@zoomtown.com> What type of Asian Pear? There are about a dozen out there. Certain cultivars are less likely to be mobbed by stinging insects. We have been investing heavily in Asian pears, mainly russet style cultivars (Olympia and its equivalents with early bearing for pollination), for the very reason that they do not seem to have nearly the level of insect damage that the other pears do. That said, we are mainly growing for use as wine and not whole fruit to sell for market so, in theory some percentage would be salvageable. We hope to sell some at market once we start seeing the right numbers. As soon as things dry out and then go into drought is when you see the most insect damage done. We are in a the middle of a dry spell too, but we are irrigating our other fall crops, maybe the watering is acting a source of water for the insects so they are not attacking the pears? Who knows. We have this crazy heat spike after an amazingly wet year?wettest year ever recorded here. Horrible for fruit production, but the Asian pears are troopers?even untreated with ANYTHING?the reason we decided to go this route is their resilience sans spray regime?you pick the right fruit for the right system. I would be curious to learn more should we see similar issues?we have seven days of 89+ highs with little chance of rain. I may pick all the pears that are almost ready to be harvest to beat the curve and let the late season wait as normal and cross my fingers. I am curious about the cultivar and are they russets? Or an earlier harvest non storing variety with thinner skin? Richard Stewart Carriage House Farm North Bend, Ohio An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855 (513) 967-1106 http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com rstewart at zoomtown.com You can follow us on Facebook or on Twitter @CarriageHsFm Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burkholders at glenecofarm.com Wed Sep 2 21:01:20 2015 From: burkholders at glenecofarm.com (Marlin Burkholder) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 21:01:20 -0400 Subject: [Market-farming] Hornet and Wasp damage to Asian pears In-Reply-To: <3EAA7A22-F032-438C-B37A-00892A06CA78@zoomtown.com> Message-ID: On 9/2/15 8:30 AM, "Richard Stewart" wrote: I am curious about the cultivar and are they russets? Or an earlier harvest non storing variety with thinner skin? > We have a variety of cultivars, Hosui, Chojuro, Shinsheiki, Kosui, 20th > Century, and Korean Giant. Most have a golden yellow skin when fully ripe. > The Chojuros and Shinsheikis have a darker bronze or copper like color when > ripe. I use and sell them primarily for fresh eating. I am assuming that the > darker shaded ones are russet type. We only have about a dozen trees and do > not consider myself an expert as far as varieties and types are concerned. > > We have been investing heavily in Asian pears, mainly russet style cultivars > (Olympia and its equivalents with early bearing for pollination), for the very > reason that they do not seem to have nearly the level of insect damage that > the other pears do. > > We hope to sell some at market once we start seeing the right numbers. > > I would be interested in knowing what those ?right numbers? would be for you > to start selling them at market. I am getting $2.50/lb now at my market. I > should be getting more but I have yet to get on top of the cedar-apple rust > problem satisfactorily. > > As soon as things dry out and then go into drought is when you see the most > insect damage done. We are in a the middle of a dry spell too, but we are > irrigating our other fall crops, maybe the watering is acting a source of > water for the insects so they are not attacking the pears? Who knows. We > have this crazy heat spike after an amazingly wet year?wettest year ever > recorded here. Horrible for fruit production, but the Asian pears are > troopers?even untreated with ANYTHING?the reason we decided to go this route > is their resilience sans spray regime?you pick the right fruit for the right > system. > > Sounds like your season has been similar to ours. I am amazed that I haven?t > seen fire blight for the past several years despite not doing prophylactic > spraying. The only explanation I can think of is that about six years ago I > got rid of my fire blight susceptible European varieties and replaced them > with the fire blight resistant ?Magness? variety. But with all the apple and > cedar trees growing around here I have to spray for the rust. > > I would be curious to learn more should we see similar issues?we have seven > days of 89+ highs with little chance of rain. I may pick all the pears that > are almost ready to be harvest to beat the curve and let the late season wait > as normal and cross my fingers. > > The second Hosui tree I picked this evening was not nearly as bad. It had set > a heavier fruit load and I had been too conservative with thinning so the > fruit was smaller. I also picked the Magness trees and they turned out better > than I have ever seen them. I have not picked the Chojuros yet. From the > eyeball they do not appear as bad. I will know more in a couple of days. > > > > Richard Stewart > Carriage House Farm > North Bend, Ohio > > An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855 > > (513) 967-1106 > http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com > rstewart at zoomtown.com > > You can follow us on Facebook or on Twitter @CarriageHsFm > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > > _______________________________________________ > Market-farming mailing list > Market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > Market Farming List Archives may be found here: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/market-farming/ > Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email > address and password): > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burkholders at glenecofarm.com Wed Sep 23 20:24:11 2015 From: burkholders at glenecofarm.com (Marlin Burkholder) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:24:11 -0400 Subject: [Market-farming] Pricing Paw Paws In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would be interested in knowing what some of you are getting for ripe Paw Paws. We are getting a few this year. We hope to have some for market next year. We are eating and sharing the ones we have this year and learning how well they will hold in refrigeration. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstewart at zoomtown.com Thu Sep 24 09:00:08 2015 From: rstewart at zoomtown.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 09:00:08 -0400 Subject: [Market-farming] Pricing Paw Paws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33A81E0D-B98B-4D06-BB74-900329F4FA1E@zoomtown.com> At one market we are as low as 5/lbs because we are in the flush of the season and there are four more farms selling them. We wholesale as low as 6/lb. I and a friend have developed a fairly efficient way to pulp pawpaws and sell for 10/lbs then. That said that price is pretty high still. There is an outfit in Athen, Ohio that does a really good job industrializing the process and taking advantage of a fairly depressed/small market demand there and sells pull for as low as 4.50/lbs Some numbers to play around with. This year has been a flush year. We are over 300# wild foraged primarily just on our farm. Going to take a stab at some wine and vinegar from them as well. Richard Stewart Carriage House Farm North Bend, Ohio An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855 (513) 967-1106 http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com rstewart at zoomtown.com You can follow us on Facebook or on Twitter @CarriageHsFm Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Marlin Burkholder wrote: > > > > I would be interested in knowing what some of you are getting for ripe Paw Paws. We are getting a few this year. We hope to have some for market next year. We are eating and sharing the ones we have this year and learning how well they will hold in refrigeration. > _______________________________________________ > Market-farming mailing list > Market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > Market Farming List Archives may be found here: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/market-farming/ > Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email > address and password): > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burkholders at glenecofarm.com Thu Sep 24 14:57:19 2015 From: burkholders at glenecofarm.com (Marlin Burkholder) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 14:57:19 -0400 Subject: [Market-farming] Pricing Paw Paws In-Reply-To: <33A81E0D-B98B-4D06-BB74-900329F4FA1E@zoomtown.com> Message-ID: Paw paws must grow better in Ohio than in any other state. Do you know why this is? What other plants or trees grow exceptionally well in your area? Christine Burkholder VA On 9/24/15 9:00 AM, "Richard Stewart" wrote: > At one market we are as low as 5/lbs because we are in the flush of the season > and there are four more farms selling them. We wholesale as low as 6/lb. I > and a friend have developed a fairly efficient way to pulp pawpaws and sell > for 10/lbs then. That said that price is pretty high still. There is an > outfit in Athen, Ohio that does a really good job industrializing the process > and taking advantage of a fairly depressed/small market demand there and sells > pull for as low as 4.50/lbs > > Some numbers to play around with. > > This year has been a flush year. We are over 300# wild foraged primarily just > on our farm. > > Going to take a stab at some wine and vinegar from them as well. > > Richard Stewart > Carriage House Farm > North Bend, Ohio > > An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855 > > (513) 967-1106 > http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com > rstewart at zoomtown.com > > You can follow us on Facebook or on Twitter @CarriageHsFm > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > > > > > > On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Marlin Burkholder > wrote: > >> Pricing Paw Paws >> >> >> >> I would be interested in knowing what some of you are getting for ripe Paw >> Paws. We are getting a few this year. We hope to have some for market next >> year. We are eating and sharing the ones we have this year and learning how >> well they will hold in refrigeration. >> _______________________________________________ >> Market-farming mailing list >> Market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming >> >> Market Farming List Archives may be found here: >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/market-farming/ >> Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email >> address and password): >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming > > > > _______________________________________________ > Market-farming mailing list > Market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > Market Farming List Archives may be found here: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/market-farming/ > Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email > address and password): > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstewart at zoomtown.com Fri Sep 25 09:02:17 2015 From: rstewart at zoomtown.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 09:02:17 -0400 Subject: [Market-farming] Pricing Paw Paws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B028D82-4BC2-4A73-B7B8-07EEB7F862D9@zoomtown.com> Wild/Native stuff? Or Domesticated? This year has been an exceptional year in our area for pawpaws and spicebush?persimmons look kickass too. Carriage House Farm North Bend, Ohio An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855 (513) 967-1106 http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com rstewart at zoomtown.com You can follow us on Facebook or on Twitter @CarriageHsFm Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail On Sep 24, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Marlin Burkholder wrote: > Paw paws must grow better in Ohio than in any other state. Do you know why this is? What other plants or trees grow exceptionally well in your area? > Christine Burkholder > VA > > > On 9/24/15 9:00 AM, "Richard Stewart" wrote: > >> At one market we are as low as 5/lbs because we are in the flush of the season and there are four more farms selling them. We wholesale as low as 6/lb. I and a friend have developed a fairly efficient way to pulp pawpaws and sell for 10/lbs then. That said that price is pretty high still. There is an outfit in Athen, Ohio that does a really good job industrializing the process and taking advantage of a fairly depressed/small market demand there and sells pull for as low as 4.50/lbs >> >> Some numbers to play around with. >> >> This year has been a flush year. We are over 300# wild foraged primarily just on our farm. >> >> Going to take a stab at some wine and vinegar from them as well. >> >> Richard Stewart >> Carriage House Farm >> North Bend, Ohio >> >> An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855 >> >> (513) 967-1106 >> http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com >> rstewart at zoomtown.com >> >> You can follow us on Facebook or on Twitter @CarriageHsFm >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 23, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Marlin Burkholder wrote: >> >>> Pricing Paw Paws >>> >>> >>> >>> I would be interested in knowing what some of you are getting for ripe Paw Paws. We are getting a few this year. We hope to have some for market next year. We are eating and sharing the ones we have this year and learning how well they will hold in refrigeration. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Market-farming mailing list >>> Market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming >>> >>> Market Farming List Archives may be found here: >>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/market-farming/ >>> Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email >>> address and password): >>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Market-farming mailing list >> Market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming >> >> Market Farming List Archives may be found here: >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/market-farming/ >> Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email >> address and password): >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming > _______________________________________________ > Market-farming mailing list > Market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming > > Market Farming List Archives may be found here: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/market-farming/ > Unsubscribe from the list here (you will need to login in with your email > address and password): > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/market-farming -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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