[Market-farming] Security camera

Beth Spaugh lists at rhomestead.com
Tue Jul 15 20:20:51 EDT 2014


A local maple producer had a person repeated stealing.  He put video 
in.  Sheriff took them to court.  Personally, I would probably just try 
to embarass them, let them know we know, and then if it didn't stop...

Some folks would consider self-serve an invitation to steal, so I don't 
know how far judicially we could take it.

And if it was a camera where I could be notified when folks come in, and 
talk to them, they would know they are being watched.  I might even 
remind them as they walked out where the pay box is.

On 7/14/2014 11:28 PM, Jack Moffitt wrote:
> What exactly would one do with evidence collected this way ? The crime historians in this area would take the call but not too seriously.
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>    1. Re: Figuring out a delivery fee (Richard Stewart)
>>    2. Re: Figuring out a delivery fee (Etienne Goyer)
>>    3. cameras for farmstand security (Beth Spaugh)
>>    4. Re: cameras for farmstand security (Richard Sherrington)
>>    5. Re: cameras for farmstand security (Richard Robinson)
>>    6. Prices for Gourds (Kraft Marty)
>>    7. Base for Shipping Container Shed (Kraft Marty)
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>> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 19:43:13 -0400
>> From: Richard Stewart <rstewart at zoomtown.com>
>> To: Market Farming <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Figuring out a delivery fee
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>> We do not charge.  We group together clients and have two primary delivery days:  Monday and Thursday. THis way we group everyone together.  We drop of a single one pound order of micros at a tiny vegan place and then a large order at a national hotel chain.  On Thursday we make a minimum of six drops and sometimes as many as 15.
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>> If you want a delivery on other days we simply set a minimum purchase amount.  Example:  100.00 within 10 miles.  140.00 between 10 and 15 and so on.
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>> We have found that we are not competing against other farmers.  We are all competing against Sysco and U.S. Foods.  Make it simple for your client.  Do not charge a delivery fee.
>>
>> Richard Stewart
>> Carriage House Farm
>> North Bend, Ohio
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>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 5:59 PM, garlicgrower at green-logic.com wrote:
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>>> Hi, Folks!
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>>> How do you guys determine a delivery fee to restaurants?  I now have a 3rd chef that wants to buy from me.  Since they are 18 miles/30 minutes away from me, they asked what my delivery fee would be.  (The other two chefs are in my neighborhood, so a delivery fee hasn?t come up.)
>>>
>>> How does one charge a delivery fee?  By mileage?  By time?
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>>> Thanks for the input ? I need it!
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>>> Dorene Pasekoff
>>> Hill Creek Farm
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>> From: Etienne Goyer <etienne at lejardinduvillage.ca>
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>> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Figuring out a delivery fee
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>> Similar here.  I only service two small restaurants in a nearby town,
>> and I currently do not charge.  Starting next year, if/when I get to set
>> up an actual delivery route with more accounts, there will be a minimum
>> order amount for the delivery (I'm thinking 50$), with 4% discount for
>> order over 100$, and 10% for order over 200$.
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>>> On 14-06-29 07:43 PM, Richard Stewart wrote:
>>> We do not charge.  We group together clients and have two primary
>>> delivery days:  Monday and Thursday. THis way we group everyone
>>> together.  We drop of a single one pound order of micros at a tiny vegan
>>> place and then a large order at a national hotel chain.  On Thursday we
>>> make a minimum of six drops and sometimes as many as 15.
>>>
>>> If you want a delivery on other days we simply set a minimum purchase
>>> amount.  Example:  100.00 within 10 miles.  140.00 between 10 and 15 and
>>> so on.
>>>
>>> We have found that we are not competing against other farmers.  We are
>>> all competing against Sysco and U.S. Foods.  Make it simple for your
>>> client.  Do not charge a delivery fee.
>>>
>>> Richard Stewart
>>> Carriage House Farm
>>> North Bend, Ohio
>>>
>>> An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855
>>>
>>> (513) 967-1106
>>> http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com
>>> rstewart at zoomtown.com <mailto:rstewart at zoomtown.com>
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>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 5:59 PM, garlicgrower at green-logic.com
>>> <mailto:garlicgrower at green-logic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Folks!
>>>>
>>>> How do you guys determine a delivery fee to restaurants?  I now have a
>>>> 3^rd  chef that wants to buy from me.  Since they are 18 miles/30
>>>> minutes away from me, they asked what my delivery fee would be.  (The
>>>> other two chefs are in my neighborhood, so a delivery fee hasn?t come up.)
>>>>
>>>> How does one charge a delivery fee?  By mileage?  By time?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the input ? I need it!
>>>>
>>>> Dorene Pasekoff
>>>> Hill Creek Farm
>>>> Pottstown, PA
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:53:26 -0400
>> From: "Beth Spaugh" <lists at rhomestead.com>
>> To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: [Market-farming] cameras for farmstand security
>> Message-ID: <7CF296E054A14D62A10C0A953AD2F954 at BethPC>
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>> For years folks told me I had a great location for a farmstand, but we
>> didn't do it because I thought the demographics of our drive-bys was poor
>> (village that folks would be coming from has high crime rate).  We went
>> ahead and put up a farmstand this year, making it self-serve.  We are losing
>> close to 50%.
>>
>>
>>
>> The farmstand does not have electricity or cable, but we do now have cell
>> service.  Anyone know of a camera system that would work in those
>> conditions. Needs to be motion-activated. Could be as "simple" as something
>> that saves to a media card (which is what the ones I've found that don't
>> require cable hookup do), and I would check after the fact to see who didn't
>> pay, to something that would link to my cell phone and I could talk to folks
>> (and see them???) when they come in.  Thinking have one by the cash box and
>> one aimed at license plates.
>>
>>
>>
>> Beth Spaugh
>>
>> Rehoboth Homestead, Peru NY
>>
>> http://rhomestead.com      http://www.facebook.com/rhomestead
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>>
>> "How we eat determines, to a considerable extent, how the world is used." -
>> Wendell Berry
>>
>> "Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances
>> Moore Lappe
>>
>> It's not that nice guys finish last. They have a whole different notion
>> where the finish line is. - unknown
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 03:12:27 -0500
>> From: Richard Sherrington <rgsherr at gmail.com>
>> To: Market Farming <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] cameras for farmstand security
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>> Take a look at iWatchLife.com
>>> On Jul 8, 2014 4:54 AM, "Beth Spaugh" <lists at rhomestead.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     For years folks told me I had a great location for a farmstand, but
>>> we didn?t do it because I thought the demographics of our drive-bys was
>>> poor (village that folks would be coming from has high crime rate).  We
>>> went ahead and put up a farmstand this year, making it self-serve.  We are
>>> losing close to 50%.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The farmstand does not have electricity or cable, but we do now have cell
>>> service.  Anyone know of a camera system that would work in those
>>> conditions. Needs to be motion-activated. Could be as ?simple? as something
>>> that saves to a media card (which is what the ones I?ve found that don?t
>>> require cable hookup do), and I would check after the fact to see who
>>> didn?t pay, to something that would link to my cell phone and I could talk
>>> to folks (and see them???) when they come in.  Thinking have one by the
>>> cash box and one aimed at license plates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Beth Spaugh
>>>
>>> Rehoboth Homestead, Peru NY
>>>
>>> http://rhomestead.com      http://www.facebook.com/rhomestead
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "How we eat determines, to a considerable extent, how the world is used."
>>> - Wendell Berry
>>>
>>> "Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances
>>> Moore Lappe
>>>
>>> It's not that nice guys finish last. They have a whole different notion
>>> where the finish line is. - unknown
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 08:26:37 -0400
>> From: Richard Robinson <rrobinson at nasw.org>
>> To: Market Farming <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] cameras for farmstand security
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>> http://www.trailcampro.com/
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>> Try the Browning.
>>
>>   Richard Robinson
>>   www.nasw.org/users/rrobinson/
>>   Hopestill Farm
>>   www.hopestill.com
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>>> On 7/8/2014 at 8:26:16 AM, Beth Spaugh wrote:
>>> For years folks told me I had a great location for a
>>> farmstand, but we didn’t do it because I thought the demographics of our
>>> drive-bys was poor (village that folks would be coming from has high crime
>>> rate).  We went ahead and put up a farmstand this year, making it self-serve.
>>> We are losing close to 50%.
>>>
>>>
>>> The farmstand does not have electricity or cable, but we do
>>> now have cell service.  Anyone know of a camera system that would work in
>>> those conditions. Needs to be motion-activated. Could be as “simple” as
>>> something that saves to a media card (which is what the ones I’ve found that
>>> don’t require cable hookup do), and I would check after the fact to see who
>>> didn’t pay, to something that would link to my cell phone and I could talk to
>>> folks (and see them???) when they come in.  Thinking have one by the cash box
>>> and one aimed at license plates.
>>>
>>>
>>> Beth Spaugh
>>>
>>> Rehoboth
>>> Homestead, Peru NY
>>>
>>> http://rhomestead.com
>>> http://www.facebook.com/rhomestead
>>>
>>>
>>> "How we
>>> eat determines, to a considerable extent, how the world is used." - Wendell
>>> Berry
>>>
>>> "Without
>>> power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe
>>>
>>> It's not
>>> that nice guys finish last. They have a whole different notion where the
>>> finish line is. - unknown
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:11:16 -0500
>> From: Kraft Marty <martyk at allspecies.org>
>> To: Farming Market <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: [Market-farming] Prices for Gourds
>> Message-ID: <86C95F65-9056-4A00-B7FE-572D08834255 at allspecies.org>
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>> We have some gourds from last year that people are asking about. How much do dried gourds go for generally?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> Marty Kraft
>> Please respond to global warming in your own way. Let care of nature become second nature.
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>> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:40:35 -0500
>> From: Kraft Marty <martyk at allspecies.org>
>> To: Farming Market <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: [Market-farming] Base for Shipping Container Shed
>> Message-ID: <F82F9E98-DBC8-4E72-BF40-900ECB071738 at allspecies.org>
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>> We want to use a 20 foot long steel shipping container as a shed. Not sure what kind of foundation is needed. A bed of gravel, concrete blocks, what? Any ideas? Experience with this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> Marty Kraft
>> Please respond to global warming in your own way. Let care of nature become second nature.
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