[Market-farming] Ginger - alternatives for planting

Wiediger, Alison alison.wiediger at hart.kyschools.us
Tue Mar 5 09:47:25 EST 2013


I guess we don't know about disease build-up yet as the crop is so new for us here in the continental US.  Freezing out wouldn't work for everybody - our soil rarely freezes more than an inch or so for more than a day or two - outside - and winter is our main production period, so we wouldn't want a tunnel out of production then if we could help it6.  Solarization is a good tool for disease should we need it, but one we don't use indiscriminately.  Sometimes diseases in vegetatively propagated corps such as potatoes, and I'd guess ginger, only show up as a steadily decreasing productivity - potato seed "running out".   As a certified potato seed producer told me, that is  usually viral, and they combat it by tissue culturing - as the ginger growers are doing with ginger.  Usually the cells in the meristem where they take the cells for culturing don't have the virus, so they can "clean up" varieties with the tissue culturing process and vigorously rogueing  any "off" plants when growing out.

So I guess we wait and see.  It will be interesting to see if there is a productivity difference in our home produced seed and what we purchase from Hawaii - or any other difference(s).  And, as with potatoes, and strawberries, and many other items, we will likely continue to purchase seedstock from producers of seedstock - as long as we can get it. I sure don't want to set up a laminar flow cabinet!

Alison Wiediger, Au Naturel Farm, SC KY

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Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Ginger - anyone else get shorted on their order?

Regarding disease, is it really an issue?  I mean, it's understood ginger is kind of a novelty item for growers in temperate climate, not a staple crop.  If you suffer from disease buildup, can't you just stop growing ginger a couple seasons?  I doubt whatever diseases ginger suffer from has alternate hosts among what we grow here.  Plus, it probably won't survive an actual winter, if you where to freeze-treat your tunnel by removing the plastic before the winter (which is something I am planning to do every time the plastic will need to be changed).

Trying ginger is on my tickler file of projects "to be done someday, maybe".  Seriously, if seed ginger is unavailable or cost-prohibitive, I will just buy a crate of food-grade organic one when I get around to it.


On 13-03-05 08:44 AM, Wiediger, Alison wrote:
> Amen Lori!  And, for what it is worth, we had about 15 row feet in a 
> high tunnel that had not been dug.  Paul dug it last week in 
> preparation for spring planting in that tunnel, planning to sell it at 
> our first few spring markets.  It was gorgeous.  Fat, solid, and 
> growing points starting to show.  As with seed potatoes, I would 
> prefer to purchase certified seed stock because of disease issues 
> showing up over time, but we will probably plant some of what we dug 
> last week to fill out our rows and evaluate it at the end of the 
> season for productivity. Not an ideal situation for anybody.  But, hey, we're farmers, we'll get through it!
> 
>  
> 
> Alison Wiediger, Au Naturel Farm
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] *On Behalf Of *Lori 
> sands
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:33 AM
> *To:* market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Market-farming] Ginger - anyone else get shorted on 
> their order?
> 
>  
> 
> I'm grateful to be getting any ginger! Tough on East Branch-- she is 
> so nice and helpful, I'm sorry this happens to her...
>  
> FYI everyone-- I saved back some rhizomes over the 2011-2012 winter 
> and they sprouted and grew just fine last season. I also found a 
> wooden box outside with ginger still planted in it last 
> February--after our not-very-severe winter of 2011-2012, and the 
> rhizomes were solid, in fine shape and also grew ok. They overwintered 
> apparently down to about
> -2 with no protection except they were kind of in a sheltered area 
> behind our small hoop.
> Last week I found a couple of leftover rhizomes in the high tunnel, 
> about 6 inches under 2 were definitely awful, but one was in good 
> shape.  Slightly soft, but viable.  hmmmm..
> Luckily I have good rhizomes saved from last season and stored in peat 
> in our cellar.
> (western PA, zone 5 ish)
>  
> Lori
>  
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> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 20:43:15 -0500
> From: allan.balliett at gmail.com <mailto:allan.balliett at gmail.com>
> To: market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org
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> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Ginger - anyone else get shorted on 
> their order?
> 
> As far as I know, East Branch IS Puna. There have been a lot of issues 
> for ginger in Hawaii in recent years. For example, an awful lot of it 
> is grown in bags now because there are so many disease issues 
> associated with the soils. Ouch! -Allan in WV
> 
>  
> 
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Wiediger, Alison 
> <alison.wiediger at hart.kyschools.us
> <mailto:alison.wiediger at hart.kyschools.us>> wrote:
> 
> I think EVERYONE got shorted.  Disappointing for us as growers, and 
> devastating for East Branch Ginger.  Hopefully, Puna Organics will get 
> their issues ironed out, and East Branch can find alternative 
> suppliers so they aren't dependent on just one grower.
> 
>  
> 
> Alison Wiediger, Au Naturel Farm
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> 
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:35 PM, "Richard Stewart" <rstewart at zoomtown.com 
> <mailto:rstewart at zoomtown.com>> wrote:
> 
>     We are getting less than 25% of entire ginger order this year.
> 
>      
> 
>     Anyone else get shorted?
> 
>      
> 
>     Puna Organics/East Branch Ginger
> 
>      
> 
>     Going to try some germination tests with the store bought stuff and
>     see what happens.
> 
>      
> 
>     Richard Stewart
> 
>     Carriage House Farm
> 
>     North Bend, Ohio
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>     An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855
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>     (513) 967-1106
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>     rstewart at zoomtown.com <mailto:rstewart at zoomtown.com>
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