[Market-farming] Réf : Re: undersowing sweet corn

clearviewfarm at bluefrog.com clearviewfarm at bluefrog.com
Thu Jun 23 09:50:23 EDT 2011


Keep in mind that, in a dry year, your underseeded crop will probably be stealing valuable moisture from your main crop.  That said, have any of you found that certain underseeded crops take away less moisture than others?

Kurt Forman
Clearview Farm
Palmyra, NY 14522

--- etienne.goyer at outlands.ca wrote:

From: Etienne Goyer <etienne.goyer at outlands.ca>
To: market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Réf : Re:  undersowing sweet corn
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:22:34 -0400

Perhaps you should undersow edamame, and thus get a marketable crop out
of your smother crop?  No idea how well that would work, but it sounds
like an interesting idea.  I might try it eventually.


On 11-06-23 08:32 AM, Lova Andriamanjay wrote:
> Thank you Pam for your reply. I will definitely try soybeans!
> 
> Lova
> 
> 
> 
> Le 19 juin 2011 15:26, Pam Twin Oaks <pam at twinoaks.org> a écrit :
> 
> I've been bogged down in the jungles of Virginia, as Ann Mooney called it!
> 
> Days and days ago, Lova Andriamanjay said:
> "this year we are growing quit a bit more sweet corn and would really
> like to grow some cover crops between the rows. It has been cultivaded
> with a flex tine weeder two or three times depending of the sowing
> date and I plan to inject some dairy manure between the rows soon and
> then cultivate once and finally hill it. All this should be done by
> the beginning of July when the rows should be closing up. I would like
> to sow something when I will be hilling them. The cover crop would
> grow in the shade until august when the sweet corn is harvested and
> then chopped. It would then have 2-3 months of growth before winter
> shut things up.
> 
> I am pretty sure some of you have tried this so I would like to hear
> what you have done. I would really like a legume/legume based mix for
> the nitrogen. I was thinking of trying: hairy vetch and rye, annual
> ryegrass, crimson clover and sweet clover. Are these choices sound?
> Would the sweet clover be able to grow back come spring?"
> 
> Our approach is: We undersow sweet corn with soy beans at about 30 days
> after sowing the corn. That's our second and last cultivation. We don't
> hill. We have a good source of cheap soybeans as we also make and sell
> tofu. Soy is somewhat tolerant of both shade (from the corn) and foot
> traffic (the harvesting crew), so that works well.
> 
> We tried crimson clover in the past but it didn't grow. In summer we
> can't provide the continuous overhead irrigation needed to get the
> clover germinated. Here, winter rye sown in August would head up before
> the fall and be a nuisance, so we don't do that. Ryegrass becomes a weed
> here, so we don't do that either.
> 
> For our last sweet corn planting, which is ready to be undersown in
> August, we use oats and soy, then just bush hog the sweet corn (high)
> when it's finished, and let the cover crops grow and be winter-killed.
> This is zone 7a approx. I forgot to note where you are located.
> 
> I don't know if hairy vetch would be a good idea. If it seeds it can
> become a problem, as some of the seed is "hard" (doesn't germinate in
> the first year, but surprises you in later years!) Sweet clover I've
> never tried. I believe the white and the yellow are quite different from
> each other.
> 
> Pam Dawling, Twin Oaks Community, Louisa, Jungles of VA
> 
> 
> 
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