[Market-farming] Health Department

Jay Sleichter jaysleichter at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 13 15:10:29 EDT 2011


We had an individual with an enclosed trailer, that he insulated really well.  He ran an AC unit with a Cool Bot attached and then ran a really small generator during the market. In fact, he left the generator in the back of the truck and drove down the road with it.  The generator was very small and you barely heard it run, even when you stood right next to it!

He said when he was at home, he just parked the trailer in his shed and plugged it in. It was more like a mobile walk in cooler!

Jay



Jay's Jellies, Produce and More

Clay Center, Kansas

www.jaysjellies.com

http://highfarming.blogspot.com/

--- On Wed, 4/13/11, sora at coldreams.com <sora at coldreams.com> wrote:

From: sora at coldreams.com <sora at coldreams.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Health Department
To: market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 1:08 PM

>Our local health dept. played these games with us for years and yes the
rules varied a lot from one town to the next.  When folk are trying to do
several markets and the health rules are totally different at each, chaos
rules.  One health inspector admitted to me that the "rules" make no
logical scientific sense but are strictly political.......sigh
Several of our people have dealt with this by purchasing an Inverter (a
devise that changes the DC power of your rig's battery to AC power) and
picking up a small used fridge or freezer to use at market.  Since these
don't run the entire time the rig's battery held fine through the day at
market.  Many of us brought jumpers just in case.  Look for fridges
designed for campers or boats as they are regulated to not give off a lot
of heat and thereby are much more efficient.  Cheap inverters are now
available at auto parts stores.  It's one solution anyways.
                    Sympathy    Sora at Paradise Valley N. Id.  where spring
                                       just doesn't want to come out!


 Another market has come and gone. Turns out that my WV county has
> 'home rule,' which means the health department can set its own rules, as
> long as they are at least as stringent as the USDA/WV state rules. My
> county, for some reason, has gone overboard and are not, currently, very
> interested in being realistic.
>
> They choose to believe the meats, eggs and dairy products must be kept in
> POWERED cooling units, that ice is not sufficient.
>
> The county next door allows ice in coolers for eggs and cheese and frozen
> meats are obviously frozen meats but our county wants everything to be
> plugged in.
>
> Not sure where we go from here but last weekend we didn't sell cheese. I
> really don't want to give up selling our wonderful meats, but it looks
> like
> that may happen.
>
> Thanks for digging into the regs.
>
> thanks to everyone for their ideas on this issue.
>
> -Allan in WV
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Harriet Allen
> <hattie_allen at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Refrigeration is just the process of cooling.  It is not specific to
>> method.  Back in the day, home refrigerators were cooled with ICE.
>> Today,
>> fish are cooled and held under "refrigeration" with ICE.  A cooler with
>> ICE
>> is refrigeration.  The West Virginia regulations (and I have just read
>> them)
>> specify that the intention is to comply with Federal Regulations (that
>> would
>> be the 45 degrees).  West Virginia added the term "refrigeration" to
>> their
>> rendition of the regulation, but a cooler with ice is a method of
>> refrigeration as long as the air in the cooler stays cold enough.  I'm
>> sure
>> that inspectors often do not understand that coolers with ice do comply
>> with
>> the actual regulations.  Sounds like someone needs to clarify this.  (my
>> two
>> cents)
>>
>> I do agree that market management must be up to snuff with these issues
>> and
>> have a good working relationship with the Dept. of Agriculture and other
>> regulatory bodies in the state so that farmers markets can be supported
>> by
>> the state and not hampered.  This is local business and local business
>> is
>> good for the local economy and the state.
>>
>> Hattie
>> Hattie's Garden
>> Lewes, DE
>>
>>
>>
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