[Market-farming] Tell us about the cukes!

jay sleichter jaysleichter at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 23 12:07:34 EST 2009

Living in Kansas, Barb, I can agree with your comments. I have a small spinach and lettuce patch and they have been feeding my family very well. I also believe that one can not count on a great winter harvest every year.  Some years are better than others.  If it wasn't for the snow that almost brought my buildings down, I would have still been picking Tomatoes at Thanksgiving or even December.  Some years it will work, some years it will be less successful.  No matter how hard we try, we are still at the mercy of Mother Nature.

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, BarbaraJ <jbmckillip at mesanetworks.net> wrote:

From: BarbaraJ <jbmckillip at mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Tell us about the cukes!
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 9:53 AM

I'm growing winter crops for the first time in Colorado under a high tunnel. 
It has been very cold here this year for us(temps in the singe digits and 
teens but nothing like the midwest), but the solar gain is huge here, we get 
a ton of sunshine.  I only planted 1/4 of the space as a test with several 
varieties, not on a commercial scale at all, just enough for my family and 
one other family of 2.  I didn't believe in Eliot Coleman's ideas even 
though I own all his books, I just had to see it for myself.  I'm a believer 
now!  I haven't even used the inside row covers.  I am finding that you have 
to plant in early fall as growth is slow during the dead of winter.  Spinach 
is the hands down winner here, both taste and growth are better than I had 
hoped for.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Shoemaker" <wshoemak at illinois.edu>
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Tell us about the cukes!

> While I think his principles are sound, I'd remind you that Elliot's 
> experiences are in a unique place. His principles can be applied but 
> tactics need to be adjusted for different places, perhaps even different 
> seasons. For example, if you're in a much colder place, such as the upper 
> Midwest, you may have a signficant gap during the end of Winter that 
> Elliot might not experience. Still, I think he is providing sound 
> leadership on the topic.
> Bill
>>Allan Balliett wrote:
>>> Someone help me here: has Eliot Coleman quit growing cool season
>>> crops in for harvest in December/January due to the slow growth the
>>> comesfrom short days/low sun? It seem to me I read that somewhere.
>>Well, he just published a book on the topic of winter production:
>>The crux of this book is that he does two different types of greenhouse:
>>cool (barely heated above 0C), and cold (not heated at all).  Different
>>crops works in different type of greenhouse.  In the depth of winter,
>>growth is extremely slow (if not nil); as such, the trick for winter
>>harvest is to grow crops in the fall, and cover them for winter harvest.
>>I have never experimented any of the above, I am just reporting what I
>>have read in the book.  If anybody have actual experience with these
>>practices, I would love to hear about their experiences to correlate and
>>compare with what Coleman advocate in his book.
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