[Market-farming] GMO's

Derek Galvin dsgalvin at gmail.com
Thu Jun 11 08:45:16 EDT 2009


Seeing how Monsanto has coerced and manipulated thus far, I wouldn't expect
a law suit to gain any traction.

Derek

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Patrick Mulkey <Mulkey at tunl.duke.edu>wrote:

>  Please don't suggest that because I am sure there is someone who is short
> a few cards in the deck that would.
>
> For those who point to a study to support your point of view you need to
> look at who funded the research, how it was done, and the researcher's
> agenda.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Marty Kraft <martyk at allspecies.org>
> *To:* Market Farming <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:43 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Market-farming] GMO's
>
> Maybe all the organic growers could bring a class action suit against
> Monsanto for ruining livelihoods.
> Marty
>  On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:51 PM, <clearviewfarm at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
>  Another question I have is how big of an impact does the relatively
> widespread use of Bt producing crops have on instigating insect resistance
> to the bacterial agent?  How soon can we growers, who depend on occasional
> use of Bt agents like Xentari and Dipel, expect to have the value of those
> pesticides mitigated due to the use of YieldGard and Herculex seeds?  I do
> wonder if any University scientists or otherwise impartial individuals have
> investigated these possibilities.
>
> Kurt Forman
> Clearview Farm
> Palmyra, NY 14522
>
> --- rootsfarm at cwdom.dm wrote:
>
> From: Roots Farm & Karen Sutherland <rootsfarm at cwdom.dm>
> To: Market Farming Community <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [Market-farming] GMO's
> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:45:31 -0400
>
> As the ongoing discussion demonstrates there are so many issues involved in
> assessing GMO's.  Even evaluating the "facts" and "factoids" such as:
>
> whether GMO's raise or lower yields (and under what conditions)
>   whether GMO's add risk of contaminating nonGMO crops (and under what
> conditions)
> whether GMO's will decrease or increase use of potentially toxic chemicals
> whether GMO's will ultimately be positive or negative for food
> supply/security
> whether GMO's can be adequately tracked and identified to minimize risk of
> allergic reactions for consumers
> and so many more important questions
>
> makes it vitally important to ask who controlled the generation,
> presentation and publication of the underlying research and did they stand
> to gain from it?  Can results, even if fairly generated and presented, be
> validly extended beyond the specific tests done?
>
> But to me, the even bigger questions are not the huge and difficult
> questions of the "facts, " but  questions of underlying values, such as:
>
> Does the boost to short-term profit, maybe even survival of a specific
> farmer or corporation, offset risk to long-term survival?
> Who should bear the risk and the potential liability should GMO's prove
> hazardous (whether by use or possible misuse)-- the people who made, use and
> profit from their use or everyone else, consenting or not?
> Does any one have the right to own & control the food supply and make
> potentially irrevocable decisions for the rest of us?
> On what side should one choose the chance of error, on the side of prove
> that it's harmful or prove that it's safe?
>
> I love this list and thank you, thank you Liz for making it possible.
>
> All best wishes,
>
> Karen
> Zone 10+
>
>   *Roots Farm***
> *Organic Produce***
> Fruits, Roots, Vegetables & Herbs
> Cockrane, DOMINICA 767-449-3038
> rootsfarm at cwdom.dm
>
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