[Market-farming] hovering helicopter

Sam White cedarrockcsa at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 13 23:17:14 EDT 2006


Interesting.  Any ideas why?  Guess we can take this
discussion of the list.

Sam

--- Brigette Leach
<avalonfarmshomegrown at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Well, Sam, Michigan's has and I've seen the video
> that they made.
> 
> Sam White wrote:
> 
> >Brigette,
> >
> >Your local Sierra Club takes aerial photos?  I know
> >national and most state chapters do no such thing,
> >fyi.
> >
> >Sam White
> >National Ag Committee
> >Sierra Club
> >
> >--- Brigette Leach
> ><avalonfarmshomegrown at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I've been reading some of the responses to your
> post
> >>and am thinking
> >>"how paranoid are these people?" But then again,
> if
> >>you all live in more
> >>remote areas than I do, planes and helicopters are
> >>more unusual. We have
> >>planes and helicopters fly over our farm,
> literally,
> >>every day. My two
> >>cents is to not take it so personally.
> Perhaps,too,
> >>I'm more
> >>appreciative of law enforcement efforts because of
> >>the extensive meth
> >>problems that we have dealt with in our area. That
> >>stuff is really bad
> >>news!! And we've had anhydrous ammonia stolen, "el
> >>creepos" prowling 
> >>around in our buildings, and on several occasions
> >>letting our livestock 
> >>out, at night, as a distraction, so they could
> steal
> >>from the co-op 
> >>across the road while we were chasing hogs.
> >>
> >>Leigh, any number of law enforcement agencies do
> use
> >>helicopters to find
> >>illegal marijuana operations, and typically fly
> >>fairly low. If anyone is
> >>using grow lights, it does show up with their
> >>equipment, and can trigger
> >>a red flag. We have purchased a great deal of
> >>equipment and supplies for
> >>our hydroponic operation through police auctions,
> >>all of it confiscated
> >>from lawbreakers. We have also had our crops
> >>destroyed because some
> >>"yahoo" of the non-law enforcement type has
> >>confiscated, if you will,
> >>our land for their crop of marijuana. At least
> >>around here, the
> >>marijuana growing "yahoos" are not the type I want
> >>prowling around my
> >>farm. If they are dumb enough to plant marijuana
> in
> >>seed corn fields,
> >>which are inspected regularly, they're dumb enough
> >>to do a lot of stupid
> >>stuff, like shoot people.
> >>
> >>Remember, too, that so few people understand any
> >>aspect of agriculture
> >>today, it probably doesn't occur to them that your
> >>animals would be
> >>bothered. We discovered this years ago when a hot
> >>air balloon event was
> >>started in our area. They just didn't know any
> >>better, but after several
> >>farmers complained, the balloonists were much more
> >>courteous, and we
> >>seldom have any problems with the balloonists now.
> >>
> >>The other thing that happens regularly around here
> >>is that photographers
> >>fly over farms, of all sizes, take photos and then
> >>approach farm owners
> >>hoping that the photos will be purchased. We also
> >>have several people in
> >>the area with private planes who fly very low
> >>sometimes, again, just not
> >>knowing any better. Oh, if you happen to be near a
> >>body of water, even a
> >>creek, that is part of a conservation project, the
> >>plane could be
> >>explained. It might also have been taking photos
> for
> >>FSA or crop 
> >>insurance. It could also be the Sierra Club, who
> >>regularly flies around 
> >>taking aerial photos.
> >>
> >>The whole thing might have been very innocent...
> >>
> >>Brigette
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Leigh Hauter wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>How prevalent is this?
> >>>
> >>>For over 15 minutes yesterday we had a helicopter
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>circling our farm 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>(must have circled 15 or so times).  Spending a
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>great deal of time 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>over our hoophouses and greenhouse, scaring the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>heck our of our dogs, 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>chickens and turkeys.  Do 'they' do this to
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>everyone or are we being 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>subjected to some sort of special attention.
> >>>
> >>>I'm offended that my tax money is being used to
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>upset our farm 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>animals.  Of course there wasn't anything for
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>'them' to take pictures 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>of except tomatoes, peppers and eggplant, but
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>still, I feel somewhat 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>violated by this intrusion.  Just because I farm
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>for a living do I 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>have less privacy rights than others?   Also, I
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>wonder if 'they' (it 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>looked like Coast Guard marking on the side of
> the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>helicopter, I 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>haven't got a good look at the pictures I took
> yet)
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>do this to the 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>big commercial operations or is this a special
> form
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>of harassment for 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>family farmers?
> >>>
> >>>Virginia.
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