[Market-farming] Roundup not harmless

Brigette Leach avalonfarmshomegrown at earthlink.net
Sun May 15 13:44:24 EDT 2005


What chemical property of Round-Up would harm anything other than green
plants?

Brigette Leach
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> [Original Message]
> From: Jill Bussiere <jdt at itol.com>
> To: Market Farming <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: 5/15/2005 12:02:42 PM
> Subject: [Market-farming] Roundup not harmless
>
> I haven't come across any research that shows that Roundup poisons people
-
> but I have come across research that notes that Roundup harms earthworms,
> and the aliveness of the earth.  The approach that I think is all
important
> for continuing to live on the planet is to work with the aliveness of the
> earth, not to focus solely on the item that we want destroyed.  If we
focus
> only on one species, plant, bug, etc, we will end up killing more than we
> plan to.
>
> I think both approaches might end up with some similar practices - but the
> approach of working with the aliveness of the earth encourages one to look
> at the wider repercussions of our actions, and their affect on the
> ecosystem, and the minute networks occuring in the soil.
>
> Roundup destroys these networks, as it kills the "selected" weeds.
>
> How do we work with the whole system, so that we achieve our ends of
growing
> food, and enhancing life?
>
> In the criteria I use, Roundup is not a viable choice.
>
> 				Jill Bussiere, Wisconsin
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Jack Lane
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 8:08 AM
> To: 'Market Farming'
> Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Re: Japanese Knotwood
>
>
>       Round up poisons people? Where did you hear that? Roundup is quite
> safe. Do you have any literature to back up your claim? If I spray
> roundup on a field it has absolutely no residual activity in the soil.
> If I don't spray green plants with it I am wasting my money. You can
> even spray roundup inside a greenhouse. But take an organically
> certified herbicide like devrinol, and you will have years of persistent
> poison in the soil.
> 	There are plenty of other chemicals to pick on besides
> glyphosate. I am not an organic grower, because the term organic is VERY
> misleading. I try to use as few chemicals as possible, but I also know
> the importance of growing the best crop to take to market. Without
> Commercial fungicides, I couldn't grow apples in Kentucky.
> 	I agree that chemicals should be kept to a minimum. Roundup is
> one of the few tools that I feel comfortable using.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
> Tradingpost
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:54 PM
> To: market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Re: Japanese Knotwood
>
>
>
> The dirty secret Monsanto denies is that Roundup poisons people who eat
> the produce. There are always safer ways to suppress weeds. If herbicide
> is needed then the crop not being grown properly in the first place.
>
> paul tradingpost at gilanet.com
> http://largocreekfarms.com
> http://medicinehill.net
>
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> On 5/14/2005 at 9:30 PM Jack Lane wrote:
>
> >Roundup is a great tool for weed suppression. It is best used in the
> >fall when the perennial plants can take the herbicide down into the
> >roots. I had some great suppression of a curly dock infested field
> >using a broadcast of generic roundup last fall.
> >	That being said you need to make sure and plant a crop or cover
> crop
> >in the spring. Otherwise you let mother nature take over. Roundup just
> >kills living plants, it does nothing for the seeds that exist in the
> >"seed bank" of all soils.
> >	I hear you can get similar weed suppression if you cultivate and
>
> >overseed with a vigorous cover crop. Anyone had success doing that with
>
> >rhizomous persistent weeds?
> >
> >
> >
> > but it is only one of the tools to consider when developing an overall
>
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