[Market-farming] Re: Japanese Knotwood

Jack Lane jacklane at mstar2.net
Sun May 15 09:08:19 EDT 2005

      Round up poisons people? Where did you hear that? Roundup is quite
safe. Do you have any literature to back up your claim? If I spray
roundup on a field it has absolutely no residual activity in the soil.
If I don't spray green plants with it I am wasting my money. You can
even spray roundup inside a greenhouse. But take an organically
certified herbicide like devrinol, and you will have years of persistent
poison in the soil.  
	There are plenty of other chemicals to pick on besides
glyphosate. I am not an organic grower, because the term organic is VERY
misleading. I try to use as few chemicals as possible, but I also know
the importance of growing the best crop to take to market. Without
Commercial fungicides, I couldn't grow apples in Kentucky. 
	I agree that chemicals should be kept to a minimum. Roundup is
one of the few tools that I feel comfortable using.

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The dirty secret Monsanto denies is that Roundup poisons people who eat
the produce. There are always safer ways to suppress weeds. If herbicide
is needed then the crop not being grown properly in the first place.  

paul tradingpost at gilanet.com

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On 5/14/2005 at 9:30 PM Jack Lane wrote:

>Roundup is a great tool for weed suppression. It is best used in the 
>fall when the perennial plants can take the herbicide down into the 
>roots. I had some great suppression of a curly dock infested field 
>using a broadcast of generic roundup last fall.
>	That being said you need to make sure and plant a crop or cover
>in the spring. Otherwise you let mother nature take over. Roundup just 
>kills living plants, it does nothing for the seeds that exist in the 
>"seed bank" of all soils.
>	I hear you can get similar weed suppression if you cultivate and

>overseed with a vigorous cover crop. Anyone had success doing that with

>rhizomous persistent weeds?
> but it is only one of the tools to consider when developing an overall

>Integrated Pest Management strategy. -----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of ktk2a
>Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:20 PM
>To: Market Farming
>Subject: [Market-farming] Re: Japanese Knotwood
>When I moved here 5 years ago there was a large stand of Japanese
>Knotwood...didn't know what it was at the time and left it alone.
>within two years the stand had doubled in size to about 50 x 80 feet,
>appeared to keep spreading and was taking over my garden.  I brush
>hogged it 
>down, and dug some of the rhizomes, but quickly discovered that was an 
>impossible job.  So, organic concerns aside, I began spraying with a
>that I got at the feed store with the active ingredient glyphosate,
>the same ingredient is in Roundup.  3 years later I have a few
>but overall, I believe I am finally winning the battle.  However now,
>horsetail is taking over....will it ever end??
>Western WA
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