[Market-farming] Market Legal Problems --

Leigh Hauter lh at pressroom.com
Sat Oct 30 10:33:34 EDT 2004

I'm sure, unless proscribed from doing so by a higher authority - 
state, federal government, the county can require any sort of permit 
it wants.

  If you don't like your counties rules, change them.

The first place to start is to lobby your supervisors (or whatever 
they are called out there). You have your farmers and customers as a 
political base. Make appointments to see the different supervisors. 
Have a letter or e-mail writing campaign.  Propose a county law 
exempting farmers' markets from all permits (or whatever). Have the 
supervisors speak to the bureaucrats and tell them to get off your 

The entire permitting deal might also be just an over enthusiastic 
bureaucrat trying to regulate the riff-raff.

And if then, if lobbying doesn't work, run your own candidate and go 
after the supervisor you deem to be the most vulnerable and the most 
opposed to your position. Even if you don't win the election, you 
will probably win on the permitting deal.

(either that or do what walmart does when it plans to move into an 
area, bribe the appropriate politicians through campaign 
contributions - effectively laundered -  and/or situate the big box 
in such a place that enough of the local powers that be are going to 
profit from it).

If you want to see a real nightmare for market licensing and permits 
try Washington DC.  When I worked for a group a a decade ago that 
tried to set up markets in poor neighborhoods it became apparent real 
quick that there was no law that applied, but that also meant that 
there was no law giving you permission either.  You could go from one 
agency to another and it was truly like Kafka's Trial.  I understand 
today, with more pressure for market's it hasn't improved much either.

Another example in Northern Virginia where the various counties 
wanted, until real recently, to get rid of roadside markets.  They 
demanded a permit from resellers. A permit that the county would not 
be issued.  And they would swoop down on markets with the police 
looking for non-producer grown items so they could fine the market 
and shut them down.

Business permits, sure, but "special events" permits to assemble on 
private land, I don't think so.

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On 10/30/2004 at 8:00 AM Pat Meadows wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:42:50 -0600, you wrote:
>>A permit to assemble on private land? No Arizona statute stipulating that
>we're free and clear to do what we want?
>>Anybody else think this is absurd? Since when is everything against the
>law that's not specifically permitted? Has Arizona gone communist?  Do
>churches need an assembly permit? How about yard sales?
>>Get a lawyer. Accuse them of communist ideas, see how they react. Better
>yet, get a rope.
>Businesses have needed various licenses, permits or
>whatevers to operate in this country for many, many years.
>The market is a business.
>I expect that similar requirements exist in most or all
>other countries, capitalist or communist (well, there's only
>one communist country left, really).
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