[Market-farming] Sierra Vista

Bill Bradshaw billbradshaw at direcway.com
Sat Nov 27 09:50:41 EST 2004


From: "Alan Whitaker" <awhitaker at greenlynk.com>


>> And, being illegal makes them just that, illegal, a law
> breaker..............

Alan, I could not agree more. I do wish that there was an easer way for
worker permits to be obtained.
During our growing season we work maybe up to 30 Hispanic workers. Some have
worked on our farm for 15 years or more. All have papers. At the end of the
season they return home and come back in the spring. It has been my
experience with Hispanics that they are good people. With sound morals.
All they want from life is to make a living. I have been to there country,
if I lived there I also would be  looking for a better life. Working
Hispanic people is no cheaper than working anybody else. We pay our workers
from $6.50 - $8.00 hour. But they will do the work.
Some of the local white kids come and look for a job, driving a new truck.
(daddy bought for him). Dad & Mom pay for insurance and fuel. He is looking
for a job because parents said he needs a job. Not because he wants to work.
Very few exceptions. I will now step down from my soap box . Bill

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Bradshaw <billbradshaw at direcway.com>
> To: Market Farming <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 9:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Sierra Vista
>
>
> > I don't know about AZ., but in our area of Texas we have a lot more
> trouble
> > out of white dopers than we do Hispanic workers. And we have a lot of
> > Hispanics. Do you think being  an alien makes one a thief. Or just being
> > illegal for that matter. Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Marie,
> > >
> > > I used to travel AZ a lot, and they do some farming just east of
Sierra
> > > Vista along the river.  There were some orchards out there.  That's a
> nice
> > > area, but over run with illegal and the ranchers have trouble with
> them.
> > > Even with the Army there, they say that things get stolen out in the
> > > country.  But it is a real nice area.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Marie Kamphefner <kampy at grm.net>
> > > To: 'Market Farming' <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:02 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Clay
> > >
> > >
> > > > Regards to the list:
> > > >
> > > > Speaking of growing things in the desert:  I wonder if it's possible
> to
> > > > garden in the area of Sierra Vista, Arizona?  It's southeast of
> Tucson,
> > > > not far from the border.  I understand it is up in the mountains so
> it's
> > > > not so hot.  I suppose I could check with their county officials,
but
> > > > wanted to ask here first.
> > > >
> > > > Marie in Missouri
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got sand 30 feet deep and would kill for a bit of your clay!
I
> > > > once got to tour some ancient garden beds on Hopi. Red rock stone
> faced
> > > > raised beds built up on top of clay irrigated with a drip from
natural
> > > > cave springs.  Growing peaches and watermelons in the desert....
> > > >
> > > >
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