[Market-farming] Mulches

Tradingpost tradingpost at gilanet.com
Tue Nov 16 10:07:43 EST 2004


Thanks, also saw your useful site Au Naturel Farm. I'm researching high tunnels and working on it right now (soon as the fresh snow melts again). I'd be laying the paper over permanent raised beds and not on paths where I walk. Another point on that shrinkage, I'd chop it off every few feet into sections and then the shrinkage would be spread out the length with small gaps instead of all pulling from the far ends. 

paul at largocreekfarms.com
http://medicinehill.net

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On 11/16/2004 at 8:40 AM Wiediger, Alison wrote:

>Here's a link to the Mfg.   http://www.ken-bar.com/htvent.html
>
>We bought directly and had drop shipped (expensive!).  Depending on where
>you are, you might find a distributor.  We haven't tried it between plants.
>How quickly it degrades depends on moisture, traffic, etc.  In the high
>tunnels, we only weighted it on the ends, but we don't have roll-up sides,
>so we have no wind issues to deal with.
>
>Alison
>
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>> 
>> The Planter's Paper sounds interesting though. Have  you tried laying it
>> in strips between rows, alongside plants instead of trying to put it in
>> between plants also or making holes for plants? That would keep shrinkage
>> from covering plants. What exactly is it and where do you get it? Do you
>> need to weigh it down with anything? How long does it hold together
>> without degrading and allowing weeds to pop up?
>> 
>> paul at largocreekfarms.com
>> http://medicinehill.net
>> 
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>> On 11/16/2004 at 8:25 AM Wiediger, Alison wrote:
>> 
>> >We have used Planter's Paper, a black paper mulch.  Its main problem in
>> >our
>> >high tunnels is shrinkage - as much as 5-6 feet in 90 feet.  That can
>> cover
>> >plants and kill them.  Outdoors, with sides covered, it might not do
>that
>> -
>> >but I've heard that it's hard to lay - tears easily.  We used a new
>> product
>> >this year made from recycled paper out of NC.  It tore easily, even
>> laying
>> >by hand, was much heavier, a light gray in color, but didn't shrink
>> nearly
>> >as much.  Its main problem is its weight.  I'm not sure a mulch layer
>> would
>> >handle its bulk either - a roll is about 14-15" in diameter and cannot
>be
>> >handled by one person.  Both break down very nicely - so much nicer than
>> >trying to get plastic out of the field!
>> >
>> >We did use photodegradable plastic once, years ago.  It did degrade, but
>> >just into smaller pieces of plastic - and the plastic stays in your soil
>> in
>> >some form, literally forever.   It may have been improved in the
>interim.
>> >
>> >I wish they'd get the paper "right".  Perhaps they will eventually.
>> >
>> >Alison Wiediger, Au Naturel Farm
>> >
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>> >> From: 	SaladG at aol.com[SMTP:SaladG at aol.com]
>> >> Reply To: 	Market Farming
>> >> Sent: 	Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:16 AM
>> >> To: 	market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org
>> >> Subject: 	[Market-farming] Mulches
>> >> 
>> >> <<File: ATT08405.txt>>
>> >> Are any of you using any paper mulches of photodegradable mulches for
>> >> growing?  What has been the results of these products in your area?  
>> >> 
>> >> We did a study using different color plastic's to see the differnt
>> >affects
>> >> on aphids this year,however being as wet a year we had no aphids that
>I
>> >> could find so maybe next year we will be able to see some differnt
>> >> results.  Used chome and silver both, both raised excellent crops of
>> >> differnt products that we grew on them.  Would still like to have a
>> paper
>> >> product that will degrade after a years use.  The plastic mulch is
>> really
>> >> a lot of work in the fall removing it and getting it to the recycler,
>> >this
>> >> year we used about 24,000 ft and that makes a big pile when all
>> gathered
>> >> up. However I won't try growing without it, it will almost double our
>> >> production and ease of picking.
>> >> 
>> >> Phil from Iowa
>> >> 
>> >> 
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