[Market-farming] Iowa funding opportunity

Rick Hopkins rdhopkins at americanpasturage.com
Sun Nov 30 22:14:51 EST 2003


Art,

That is the point.  We are renovating without the use of chemicals
especially the organo-phosphate based non-selective herbicide such as
Roundup.  We were not surprised to find weed infestation in our
market-garden crops.  What we were surprised is that we could mitigate the
effects by timely tillage.  We did no cultivation after planting and
confirmed reduced yields against permanent, weed free plots during the
growing season.  But this was of little consequence to us as we had more
than adequate yields for the labor and seed costs.  The only real failure
with regard to weeds were some seed sprouted tomatoes that never ripened due
to low sunlight.  The pigweed was two feet taller than the tomato plants.
Still it wasn't a failure in regard to our learning what will produce under
these circumstances.

Back on the chemical herbicide application, we see a lot of weed infestation
into the CRP lands that NRCS cost-shares the conversion to native grasses,
spraying with Roundup then no-tilling.  Who says weeds are bad in pasture
though?  Our livestock selectively grazes the weeds throughout the various
seasons.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of robert
schuler
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:10 AM
To: Market Farming
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Iowa funding opportunity


Hello Rick. Correct me if I am wrong but I get the impression you are
plowing up pastureland and rotating it into vegetables for one season then
rotating the land back into pasture.  What is so earth shakingly new about
that. I would burn the pasture vegetation back with Roundup before tilling,
you will be surprised with the unexpected weeds that come up from land thats
been in pasture a few years...Bob.
Sunny Meadow Farm
Bridgeton, NJ.

Rick Hopkins wrote:

> Art,
>
> Not exactly what I am doing.  See my earlier reply.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:market-farming-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Art
> Petrzelka
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:40 AM
> To: Market Farming
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Iowa funding opportunity
>
> It explains it on their website.
>
> I believe that they are talking about using a brassica mix and other
> vegetable like field peas, turnips, soybeans and oilseed radish in
> pasture. I know that Albert Lea Seed House carries many of the varieties
> that are used in this type of pasture. http://www.alseed.com/
>
> On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 06:41, SaladG at aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 11/27/03 9:26:13 AM Central Standard Time,
> > rdhopkins at americanpasturage.com writes:
> >
> > > we would like to participate with our pastured vegetable
> > > production system.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Ok I'll bite, what is pastured vegetables ,
> >
> > Phil from Iowa
> >
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