Market-Farming mailing list FAQ - update with easy howto info

Lawrence F. London, Jr. lflondon at mindspring.com
Tue Oct 17 19:21:36 EDT 2000



This is the 10/17/200 update of the market-farming list FAQ. New in
this is version is a section on etiquette plus expanded info on
subscribing and unsubscribing, URL for the Lyris master help documents
for users and more.
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Welcome to the Market Farming discussion forum
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The FAQ

Frequently Asked Questions about the Market Farming discussion group

1. What is the Market Farming discussion group?
2. Market Farming defined
3. How do I subscribe to Market Farming?
4. How do I unsubscribe from Market Farming?
5. How do I post to Market Farming?
6. Where can I find archives of Market Farming?
7. What are some other Market Farming resources on the World Wide Web.
8. How to obtain a copy of the Market Farming Mailing List FAQ
9. Master help documents for users at the Lyris website
10. List etiquette

1. WHAT IS Market Farming?

Name of list: market-farming
Posting address for list: market-farming at franklin.oit.unc.edu

market-farming at franklin.oit.unc.edu is a mailing
list/newsgroup/webforum
for networking among farmers of small acreage whose primary marketing
outlets are consumer-direct and local.

We hope to see discussions on appropriate scale production methods and
equipment, marketing and profitability, cropping sequences and
diversification, sustainability, both of the land and of the farm
family,
working with extension agents, private consultants, and fellow
farmers, in
other words, all those things involved in making a living providing
food
and fiber from your small acreage.


2. WHAT IS A MARKET FARM?

For the purposes of this list, a Market Farm is a small acreage farm
whose
primary marketing outlets are consumer-direct and local. Generally, we
find
farms of 2 -20 acres having similar production, marketing, and time
problems. We don't screen for acreage when you sign up, but if you're
not
trying to make a living from your land, or you're applying for USDA
crop
subsidies, or shipping veggies overseas in 747s, you probably won't
find
this an appropriate forum for your concerns.

Most growers on this list use organic, biodynamic, or sustainable
production practices. Direct marketing through local and regional
farmers'markets, roadside stands, to restaurants, and through
Community
Supported Agriculture shares and subscriptions is the norm.


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2. HOW DO I SUBSCRIBE TO MARKET FARMING?

Self-subscribe throuth the Web by accessing the website at
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming.


Subscribing & unsubscribing to market-farming 
using email instead of the Web interface: 

In case you do not have Web access or for any reason need to use the
email
interface, here are some key commands;

In all cases, the default server address is:
lyris at franklin.oit.unc.edu

This is the email address to send commands to change the status of
your
account. Other addresses are shown where appropriate. Note that
commands
may be placed in either the subject line or in the body of the
message. 
For
some actions you have several choices of commands and you may use the
one
that suits your preferred mode.

SUBSCRIBING:
subscribe market-farming
subscribe market-farming your_name
join market-farming
join market-farming your_name
alternate address: join-market-farming at franklin.oit.unc.edu

UNSUBSCRIBING:
unsubscribe market-farming
leave market-farming
alternate address: leave-market-farming at franklin.oit.unc.edu

SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO DIGEST MODE:
set market-farming digest

SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO INDEX MODE:
set market-farming index

SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO DISCUSSION MODE:
set market-farming mail

TEMPORARILY SUSPENDING MAIL FROM THE LIST: set market-farming nomail

RESUMING MAIL FROM THE LIST:
set market-farming mail
set market-farming digest
set market-farming index

You may subscribe as an e-mail list, a digest of that list or just
gain
access to the usegroup which gives you access to posts from the web
but
doesn't deliver them to your mailbox. If you lack web access, or the 
e-mail commands don't seem to work, e-mail any of the list owners for 
assistance.

More on this:
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Everyone can configure the way the list's output is presented to them.

Just follow these steps:

Go to:
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming
Enter the email ID you used to subscribe to the list with and your
password if you subscribed with one, then click on the 2 buttons to
enter the list proper.

Then click on the "Your Settings" button .....

Then open the Status options pull-down menu .....

and pick the receive mail option that suits you;
the DIGEST option allows you to receive one message
per day containing all the messages posted to the list for that day.

And more:
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You can set your user configuration to send you combined daily posts
as a digest. See the FAQ for specific instructions or just go to the
web page for the list, login and make the changes there.
The FAQ is:
http://www.ibiblio.org/intergarden/documents/market-farming.faq
and you can login at:
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming
or browse/search/read the message archives without logging in at:
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?visit=market-farming

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3. HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE TO MARKET FARMING?

At the end of every post to this list there is text at the bottom of
the
page with automated unsubscription info and procedure. Here is a
sample
from a typical post:

You are currently subscribed to market-farming as: <your email
address>
To unsubscribe send a blank email to
leave-market-farming-<user number>@franklin.oit.unc.edu

OR Self-unsubscribe by accessing the website at
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming.

If you lack web access, or the instructions don't work for you, e-mail
any of the list owners for assistance. 

More on this:
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There's an auto-reply URL at the bottom of each message from the list;
just click on this and it will send an unsub message to the list's
Lyris server to get it done for you automatically.

About this method from the FAQ:
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"At the end of every post to this list there is text at the bottom of
the page with automated unsubscription info and procedure. Here is a
sample from a typical post:"
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You are currently subscribed to 
market-farming as: <your email address>

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
leave-market-farming-<user number>@franklin.oit.unc.edu
or:
leave-market-farming at franklin.oit.unc.edu
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OR Self-unsubscribe by accessing the website at
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming.
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Other methods described in the FAQ
http://www.ibiblio.org/intergarden/documents/market-farming.faq

Send email to:
lyris at franklin.oit.unc.edu

In the message text type:
unsubscribe market-farming
or
leave market-farming

or just send email to this address:
leave-market-farming at franklin.oit.unc.edu

Or contact me for assistance:
Lawrence London
Owner: market-farming list
lflondon at mindspring.com or  london at mindspring.com


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4. DO I HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO READ THE POSTS?

You  can read the posts using the Web interface as well as the News
interface without being a subscriber to the list.

To read using the Web interface go to:

http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming and 
click
on the button that says "Visit market-farming without joining"

To read using the News interface use the following methods:

Method 1 using your news reader:
-
Access via Usenet news can be had by adding this news server name to
your
list of news servers in your news reader, or make it your default
server:

franklin.oit.unc.edu

Connect with the franklin.oit.unc.edu news server and download the
list of
available newsgroups and subscribe to market-farming.
Subscribing to the market-farming newsgroup does not make you a
subscriber
to the list. You can post to the newsgroup only if you are a list 
subscriber;
otherwise you can read the newsgroup.

Method 2 using your Web browser [+ news reader]: -
go to this URL (i.e. type this URL into the dialog box in your web 
browser)
news://franklin.oit.unc.edu (news:// is part of a URL just like ftp://
and
http://) and download the list of available newsgroups and subscribe
to 
market-farming.

or go to this URL:
news://franklin.oit.unc.edu/market-farming for reading (and/or posting
if
you're a list subscriber)

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5. HOW DO I POST TO MARKET FARMING?

Send your messages to:
market-farming at franklin.oit.unc.edu

You have to be a list subscriber to post to market-farming using
either 
the
Email, Web or News interface. You can, however read all posts,
including
the archives, as a non-subscriber.

In order to post to Market Farming, you must be subscribed to the list
AND
send your message from the email account that you used to subscribe to
the
list. In other  words, if you have several e-mail accounts or aliases,
you
need
to send e-mail from the account you used to subscribed.

IMPORTANT NOTE: All posts to market-farming are permanently archived.
This
allows folks to go back and search for specific information in a
thread.
It also means your name is archived with your post.  If this is a
problem
for you, it's best you not use this list.

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6. WHERE CAN I FIND ARCHIVES OF POSTINGS TO MARKET FARMING?

On the world wide web at:
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming

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7. WHAT ARE SOME OTHER WEBSITES OR DISCUSSION GROUPS THAT MIGHT BE OF 
INTEREST

SANET-MG Sponsored the Sustainable Agriculture Network from the USDA,
this
list is international in scope. It is largely populated by academics
and
the discussions are frequently philosophical and/or policy oriented.
However, farmers frequently lurk here and research on any given topic
is
available for the asking. Archives and subscription information can be
found at http://www.sare.org/san/htdocs/hypermail

 Biodynamics NOW! (bdnow), the 
international biodynamic farming and gardening discussion list.

Join BD Now! at http://www.igg.com/bdno     or send a message to 
listproc at envirolink.org
put 'sub bdnow YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS YOUR NAME'
in the body of the message.
 BD CSAs are listed here.

Lawrence London's websites and forums at MetaLab
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden
http://metalab.unc.edu/permaculture

There's a special document with info on accessing all these lists in a
file
at this URL: http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden/forumdoc.txt

Lists of interest at the MetaLab Lyris server include:

csa
soil-quality
seed-saving
farmers-markets
farm-personals 
market-farming
permaculture
permaculture-calendar

The Sustainable Farming Connection
Developed and maintained by Craig Cramer formerly editor of The New
Farm.
This site is a cornucopia of resources and topics. Sustainable
techniques
for farms of all sizes and crops.
http://sunsite.unc.edu/farming-connection/

ATTRA - Appropriate Technology Transfer to Rural Areas One of the best
appropriate scale and alternative crop sites on the web. Loaded with
publications and links. This is THE site for posting apprenticeship
and
internship opportunities www.ATTRA.org

IF YOU GARDEN FOR PLEASURE, LANDSCAPE, AND EXPERIMENTATION the
following
sites may be better suited to your needs

http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden InterGarden 
Rodale Press Gardening http://www.rodalepress.com./gardening.htm
National Gardening Association www.garden.org

IF YOU HOMESTEAD OR FARM PRIMARILY AS A LIFESTYLE CHOICE AND GROW FOOD
primarily to feed your own family, the following site may be better
suited
to your needs

http://www.homestead.org

OTHER RESOURCES

GROWING FOR MARKET is a monthly newsletter that has articles by and
about
market farmers. Good ideas and honest discussion abound. Subscriptions
are
$30/year. GFM, Fairplain Publications, P.O. Box 3747, Lawrence, KS
66046;
Tel 800-307-8949/fax: 785-748-0609. 
Growing for Market 
growing4market at earthlink.net
http://www.growingformarket.com 
Lynn Byczynski <growing4market at earthlink.net>



THE COMMUNITY FARM A Voice for Community Supported Agriculture Edited
and
produced by Jim Sluyter and Jo Meller. Quarterly publication comes out
in
February, May, August and November. $20 US TCM 3480 Potter Rd. Bear
Lake,
MI 49614 (616) 889-3216 fsfarm at mufn.org

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8. How To Obtain a Copy of the MARKET FARMING MAILING LIST FAQ.

The FAQ will be sent to you automatically to indicate 
that you have subscribed successfully 

OR you may read it (market-farming.faq) at:
http://www.ibiblio.org/london/documents/market-farming.faq

OR have it sent to you by email by sending email to:
lyris at franklin.oit.unc.edu
with the message text or subject line containing:
get market-farming market-farming-list.faq

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The master help documents for users of this and any other Lyris lists
is located
at http://www.lyris.com/help/index.html; questions not answered by
this FAQ
are addressed here.

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10. List etiquette

a) please trim your reply quotes
b) be sure to trim reply quotes
c) always trim reply quotes
d) don't forget to trim reply quotes
e) please do not send attached files of any kind to the list;
   instead announce in your email any URL's to files you
   want people to see/hear/read or distribute them on request by
   private email
f) advertising is OK within signatures or included discretely within
   message text as long as it is informational and useful to market
   farmers, i.e. a special product or service - it's pretty easy to
   determine the difference between a simple tasteful ad and spam
g) If discussion of activism and activist strategies is desired by all
   means  do it. What seems to clog up the list is constant
   crossposting of activist news,
   calls-to-action  and updates from other lists and newsgroups, items
   not necessarily related to market-farming. Some is OK, more would
   probably be considered by most as being off-topic.
h) h) and beyond is under construction - suggestions & additions   
    welcome

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. 
lflondon at mindspring.com    
london at metalab.unc.edu
http://www.ibiblio.org/london



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