market-farming digest: November 10, 2000

Kevin Ancell kancell at
Sat Nov 11 13:34:52 EST 2000


Take a chill pill. I get upwards of 20 unsolicited emails a day. I don't
whine or try and whip up ill will. I just delete the damn things and move on
with my life.

As far as ISP's charging for Spam email I dare say that you can not produce
one ISP or Service Provider that has the moral or legal authority to charge
someone for unsolicited email. I know a little about this as I was a service
provider and had over 4,000+ customers before a very profitable sale of our

The only kind of Spamming that gets attention is when Denial of Service is
involve from an offending person/organization shuts down an email server and
I hardly think this falls into this category.

As far as Spamming I consider your email just as bad as "betsy" since you
are interjecting your politics in the last paragraph and lines.

In closing get a life, go play with your seedlings or read your 2001 seed
catalogs and stop trying to whip up Anti-Spamming Drivel because you can not
effect what people do or don't send out. I realize it makes you feel better
to Pontificate but remember in the U.S. of A. we are all free to express our
opinions whether they are stupid or well constructed based in fact. The
Internet being the most free of all places does not have room for NAGS just
ideas and freedom to express those ideas.


Kevin Ancell
Market Farmer

----- Original Message -----
From: <marc at>
To: market farming <market-farming at>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: market-farming digest: November 10, 2000

> >
> There's an old saying about "it's easier to get
> forgiveness than permission" and it seemed that's
> exactly what you tried to do..
> An apology is not acceptable while you continue to trample
> over others after the apology. Like that makes everything
> OK and no one should hold you accountable or protest?
> Your message indicated you KNEW you were SPAMMING
> before you hit the send button!
> There can be consequences for SPAMMING. If a lot of people
> fowarded your post and a SPAM complaint to your ISP at:
> you could find yourself the receipient of a hefty bill as many
> service providers have a no spam policy and charge upwards of
> $500 per violation and disconnect of your service as you did agree
> to their service policy prior to getting connected with them.
> Additionally clogging up the internet with lines to the Florida
> government offices would only serve to get the posts sent
> there ignored and further lower internet email credibility to
> the level of trash.
> I do a lot of communications with my State of Colorado Ag
> Department and have had to work quite hard to buuild a
> relationship with them so they will respect my emails regarding
> agriculture as they get so many immediate gratification emails
> like what you are pushing for.
> I think you could consider the officials of Florida ARE GOVERNED
> BY FLORIDA LAW - not mindless emails from a faceless mob from
> out of their state they have NO legal or moral obligation to.
> They are doing their job as dictated by the Florida Law and the
> Courts.
> They ARE recounting  and don't need millions of emails from
> OUT OF STATE PEOPLE to tell them to do what THEY
> ARE ALREADY DOING!!!  Don't you watch the news?
> Why would you tell the dog to sit when it already is? It's
> not even your dog.
> They are the focus of the most intense scrutiny since Watergate
> and Nixon. Not even during the impeachment investigation and
> pursuit  of Clinton has this much firepower been aimed at an
> internal USA situation.
> (If anything I think we should have a nationwide recount.)
> Shame.
> Marc Nameth
> > Subject: sorry again
> > From: "Betsy" <ilima at>
> > Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:43:49 -0600
> > X-Message-Number: 4
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C04B2D.051BE6A0
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >         charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > My apologies once again, although sounds like some of you won't be =
> > accepting them. I edited my e-mail list to try to remove all list-servs
> > and other inappropriate recipients for the re-vote call. I guess I =
> > missed some. Please note, I don't assume that you would all agree with =
> > me - don't feel you need to tell me you don't. Consider it a wayward =
> > e-mail, mistakes do happen.
> >
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