[internetworkers] Sometimes it pays to get your facts straight

matusiak dave at matusiak.org
Wed Oct 6 12:34:29 EDT 2004

On Oct 6, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> Dave you are incorrectly inferring that by posing the question I was
> suggesting something sinister on the part of democrats.
> I simply found it to be curious and was wondering out loud.  (I was 
> also
> being sincere when I said it was a blunder on the part of Cheney.)


I was not trying to question the sincerity of your statements, as they 
appear consistent with your past sentiments.  However, I was 
immediately addressing the possible implication that "something was 
amuck" with this site's domain registration and that it was obviously 
placed outside of US reach for nefarious reasons.  That is exactly the 
message that was transmitted from your keyboard.  Anyone who has read 
this list for the past year can "read between the lines" and match up 
your intentions with the words posted to the list.

The reason I responded, and the point that I'm trying to drive home, is 
that using loaded language to get your point across often does more to 
call your opinion into question than to support your ideas.  This is a 
problem on a national (if not global scale), both with our elected 
officials and with the constituents.

If the goal is spreading misinformation, then use whatever lingo you 
desire.  If the goal is to legitimately discuss topics and attempt to 
solve problems, then language and intentions must be made painfully 
clear for all to see.  We all know it can be just as misleading to 
leave out important facts as it can be to completely fabricate 
information.  In this case, we don't even know that Soros owns this 
domain or pretty much anything about it.  The inference that he owns it 
(or scooped it up quickly based upon Cheney's blunder) and then made 
the point to redirect those web requests to his own site is both quite 
loaded, as well as lacking some significant details.

That's about all I have to say on that topic.  I hope it was clear.
dave m.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: matusiak
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:41 AM
>> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
>> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Sometimes it pays to get your facts 
>> straight
>> On Oct 6, 2004, at 10:28 AM, Tony Spencer wrote:
>>> Yeah, that was a nasty blunder.
>>> Any clue why does Soros have all contact info for the domain
>>> factcheck.com listed in the Caymen Islands?
>> Yes, 'cause we all know that all those philandering Democrats offshore
>> all their money so as to hurt the American economy and line their
>> disgustingly blue-blood pockets.  C'mon -- let's at least /try/ to 
>> play
>> fair.

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