[Homestead] Fw: another Country heard from :

Toni Hawryluk tonihawr at msn.com
Thu Sep 23 16:23:08 EDT 2004

This is why it's imperative to 'have many tools in the fire' -
as in being on different types of lists .... 
Subject: pnw-natives message about the draft


You are right to be concerned about this. I have a niece who joined the  
Kansas National Guard during the Clinton years. Her guard obligation  
officially ended just over a year ago, she declined to re-enroll. She's  
started a family and is currently pregnant with her first child. Last  
month she was notified that she was being recalled and will have to  
serve two years in Iraq. Apparently every member of the national guard  
or regular service can be recalled within six years of being  
discharged. Because she is pregnant her mobilization to Iraq has been  
delayed until 60 days after she gives birth, but she already has her  

The war is going so badly that young mothers who have already fulfilled  
their military obligation are having children torn from their breasts  
to be sent to fight. If they're that desperate for soldiers, how can a  
draft be far behind? I don't understand why this isn't headline news.

My own daughter, 21 and a dual citizen, is currently living in the  
States. I'm doing my best to encourage her to come back home, and  
hoping that my country's cooperation won't extend to extraditing dual  
citizens who dodge the pending draft.

I can assure you that, even though you might not hear about it down  
there, there is a lot of support amongst ordinary Canadians to open the  
borders again, as they were open during the Vietnam war. It's a topic  
that receives a lot of media play up here. I say let them come! Send us  
your young bright minds. Canada was greatly enriched during the Vietnam  
years, and could be again. We're putting pressure on our politicians to  
do the right thing and help out a neighbor in need.

All the best,
Delta, BC, Canada

On 23-Sep-04, at 9:31 AM, Toni Hawryluk wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: [lace-chat] Mandatory Draft
> I received a message about this U.S. bill from my 16 year old son, who  
> is
> obviously concerned about it. (I have put in the message he received  
> below)
> I tend to check such things before forwarding them to anyone else, but  
> it
> seems from the Urban legend website, that this is true, but that the  
> bill is
> unlikely to pass for reasons stated on:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/draft.asp<http://<http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/draft.asp<http://> 
> www.snopes.com/polit<http://www.snopes.com/polit>
> ics/military/draft.asp>
> If you aren't in favour of a mandatory draft, it is worth writing to  
> protest
> against it
> Sue Babbs
> You probably won't hear much about this before the election....read it  
> and
> weep....
> Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26) starting June 15,  
> 2005, is
> something that everyone should know about.
> This literally effects everyone since we all have or know children  
> that will
> have to go if this bill passes.
> There is pending legislation in the house and senate (companion bills:  
> S89
> and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can  
> begin
> as early as spring, 2005, just after the 2004 presidential election.  
> The
> administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while  
> the
> public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed
> immediately. Details and links follow.
> This plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a  
> shelter and
> includes women in the draft. Also, crossing into Canada has already  
> been
> made very difficult.
> Actions
> Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all  
> the
> aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. . .
> And let your children know - - it's their future, and they can be a  
> powerful
> voice for change!
> This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found in detail at this  
> website
> http://thomas.loc.gov/<http://thomas.loc.gov/<http://thomas.loc.gov/<http://thomas.loc.gov/>>
> Just enter in "HR 163" and click search and will bring up the bill for  
> you
> to read. It is less than two pages long.
> If this bill passes, it will include all men and ALL WOMEN from ages  
> 18 - 26
> in a draft for military action. In addition, college will no longer be  
> an
> option for avoiding the draft and they will be signing an agreement  
> with the
> Canada which will no longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the  
> draft to
> stay within it's borders.
> This bill also includes the extension of military service for all  
> those that
> are currently active.
> If you go to the select service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals  
> you
> will see that the reasoning for this is to increase the size of the  
> military
> in case of terrorism. This is a critical piece of legislation, this  
> will
> effect our undergraduates, our children and our grandchildren.
> Please take the time to write your congressman and let them know how  
> you
> feel about this legislation.
> www.house.gov<http://www.house.gov/<http://www.house.gov<http://www.housegov/>>  
> www.senate.gov<http://www.senate.gov/<http://www.senate.gov<http://www.senate.gov/>>
> Please also write to your representatives and ask them why they aren't
> telling their constituents about these bills and write to newspapers  
> and
> other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important
> story.
> The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 selective service  
> system
> budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as  
> June 15,
> 2005. Selective service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the
> system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation.
> Please see
> www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html<http://www.sss.gov/<http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html<http://www.sss.gov/> 
> perfplan_fy2004.html> to
> view the Selective Service
> System annual performance plan, fiscal year 2004.
> The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350  
> draft
> board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide. Though this  
> is an
> unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential  
> members of
> congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard  
> slog"
> in Iraq and Afghanistan (and permanent state of war on terrorism)  
> proves
> accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.
> www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp<http://<http://www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp<http://> 
> www.hslda.org/<http://www.hslda.org/>
> legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp> entitled the
> Universal National service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common  
> defense
> by requiring that all young persons (age 18-26) in the United States,
> including women, perform a period of military service or a period of
> civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland
> security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in  
> the
> committee on armed services.
> Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam  
> era.
> College and Canada will not be options. In December, 2001, Canada and  
> the
> U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep
> would-be draft dodgers in.
> Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S.
> Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30  
> point
> plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement"  
> of
> people entering and departing each country.
> Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class
> lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen  
> would
> only be able to postpone service until the end of their current  
> semester.
> Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.
> What to do: Tell your friends, Contact your legislators and ask them to
> oppose these bills
> Just type "congress" into the aol search engine and input your zip  
> code. A
> list of your reps will pop up with a way to email them directly. We  
> can't
> just sit and pretend that by ignoring it, it will go away. We must  
> voice our
> concerns and create the world we want to live in for our children and
> grandchildren.
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