[freetds] Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Beta 1

Daniel Morgan danielmorgan at verizon.net
Mon Jul 5 17:09:24 EDT 2004

How would I do a network trace on Windows XP Pro?

My original question was asking how to connect to the new SQL 2005
Express Beta.

I didn't know if the TDS protocol needed updating or what.  I knew you
guys knew TDS.  Basically, I didn't know enough to ask the right

- can connect via Query Analyzer that comes with SQL 2000 Developer
using NT Auth.
- unable to connect via Enterprise Manager that comes with SQL 2000
Developer ( I think this is mentioned in the release notes you can't do)
- unable to connect via Mono's SqlClient either way: SQL Auth nor NT
- someone mentioned (Peter Ducan ?) said they can connect via FreeTDS.
He didn't say what he did to connect.

I have only been trying to connect on my local machine.  So, I wonder
what I am doing wrong then.

Does FreeTDS support connecting via named pipes?


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[mailto:freetds-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of brian at bruns.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [freetds] Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Beta 1

My point is, I guess, that they seem to be targeting this to the niche
that Jet (Access) currently fulfills. Single machine or small workgroup
database.  Look to see Access frontend to this instead of Jet with the
next major rev (my supposition).

Glad to see tcpip/tds can be reenabled on this beast.  But, my point is
that you'll start seeing MSDE/SSE files distributed in the same manner
that Jet files are today within the next couple of years.  Same
underlying technology, maybe, but different market space.  FreeTDS won't
do the job when someone sends you one of these in the ol' email.

Thinking about it, I'm not quite sure that I understood the original
post.  Did you mean that other machines can access the server, but only
from CLI? or it is accessible on the same machine only through CLI?  If
it's going across networks than it must be named pipes? Or perhaps it is
DCOM?  Would be interesting to get a network trace in that case.



On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:41:41 -0400, "James K. Lowden" wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, brian at bruns.com wrote:
> > I don't consider this a huge issue, as this is a replacement for
> > which is more of an Access replacement than something in the SQL 
> > Server line.  They are just trying to leverage SQL Server name,
> Is that really the case, Brian?  I mean, Access isn't exactly an 
> unknown brand itself, but, more important, it speaks a different 
> dialect of SQL.
> AIUI (and allowing for some marketing hyperbole) SS2K5E is a drop-in
> replacement for good ol' SQL Server.  It has stored procedures,
> triggers,
> views.  Access has all that?  
> The real question would be, can it be a multi-user database?  Is
> security and isolation?  Is the whole user/group/role implementation 
> there; do tables have owners and permissions that attach to them?
> If it's multi-user and merely lacking a remote-access protocol (no
> intended), then frontending it with our server would be a cool and 
> useful hack IMO.  OTOH, if it doesn't have those things, nothing we 
> can do will
> fix it.  
> --jkl
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