[Chtechcomm] FYI: Free VMWare virtualization + our MUNIs

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Tue Feb 7 15:16:15 EST 2006


Good stuff, ping me if there's anything I can do to help.


> Yeah, I've been trying to get my hands on a copy for some time now (too
> $$$; and, that is why I was 'playing' with Xen), now that its free -
> don't try to stop me :-)
> A.
>
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> Arek,
>
> You could run this is a Citrix-like or shared fashion. VMWare is
> the cadillac of this tech.  We use it for Q/A, etc. so maybe
> Brandon can chime in.
>
> Will
>
>>
>> Well, virtual machine(s) have been around for some time now.  We
>> experimented with Xen (open source variant of virtual machine) for
> many
>> different reasons... From the article you quoted "Q: What is VMware
>> Server?  A: VMware Server is a free virtualization product for Windows
> and
>> Linux servers. It enables companies to quickly provision new server
>> capacity by partitioning a physical server into multiple virtual
>> machines."
>>
>>
>> So, Virtualization allows hardware abstraction so that any kernel
> 'thinks'
>> it is talking to hardware, while it is actually conversing via one of
> the
>> abstracting software processes.  Virtualization allows multiple
> instances
>> of operating systems run simultaneously in same hardware (providing
>> adequate hardware resources: disk/memory-space exists), but that is
> all it
>> does.  Emulators like 'wine' and win4lin actually "translate" windows
>> applications calls to the kernel into something that Linux can
> process,
>> therefore windows operating system is not required (unfortunately the
> free
>> version of wine will not run MUNIS client, and commercial version is
>> almost $100 per client; win4lin significantly eclipses that mark).
> With
>> VMware, one would still need to install windows in order to run
> windows
>> application within the virtual machine (so no savings on windows
> license,
>> and slight decrement in performance).
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, I had more conversations with both MUNIS, and
> FourJ's.
>> I have since received, and experimented with MUNIS Macintosh client in
>> "Sheep Saver" and "Basilisk" (Mac emulators for Linux).  So far, both
> to
>> no avail, but the error codes appear more verbose and descriptive -
>> perhaps with more time/lack...
>>
>>
>> A.
>>
>>
>> Arkadiusz (Arek) Kempinski
>> Town of Chapel Hill / IT dept.
>> 405 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
>> Chapel Hill, NC. 27514
>> (o) 919.968.2888 x356
>> (e) akempinski at TownOfChapelHill.org
>> <mailto:akempinski at TownOfChapelHill.org>
>> (f) 919.969.2017
>>
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>> Subject: [Chtechcomm] FYI: Free VMWare virtualization + our MUNIs
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> The "leader" in O/S virtualization software, VMWare, has released
>> a free version of their product unencumbered with licensing issues:
>>
>> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/faqs.html
>>
>> What is virtualization and why should we care?  Virtualization
>> allows you to run Windows applications (in fact the whole windows
>> environment) on top of Linux.  The main argument (it seems) in moving
>> forward with the OSS pilot has been the MUNIS "problem".
>>
>> Through VMWare's free or low cost next gen solution, we can solve
>> the MUNIs problem.
>>
>> I'd like to hear from Bob and company on this development.
>>
>> Will
>>
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