[cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?

Greg London email at greglondon.com
Thu Dec 22 08:27:27 EST 2011

> does sound familiar

Several years ago I suggested the idea of having a license that allowed  
copyright holders to specify a shorter copyright term, after which point the  
work was released to the public  without any restriction at all.

So CC-BY-NC-ND-EXP2040  would be by-nc-nd until 2040 after which point the  
author would release the work into the public domain.

That was something I suggested a number of years ago and CC pretty much just  
flat out rejected.

I dont know if that suggestion way back when is ringing some memory bells  
for you now. Perhaps.

I still consider the idea of having a way to let owners to easily release a  
work into the public domain after a period of time, and do so easily within  
the CC framework to be useful to some owners, and possibly useful to people  
battling the continual extending of copyright terms just before they are  
about to expire, because it makes more people that copyright terms arent  
written in stone but are rather a negotiation between the public as a whole  
and authors which is negotiated by the government. Or at least that was the  
idea the founding fathers had.

I believe I mentioned this in one of my copyright books, either "Bounty  
Hunters" or "Libre Labyrinth". I know for certain I suggested to CC offering  
a licence that allowed the owner to indicate the work eould enter the Public  
Domain at some time earlier than copyright terms would do it. And IIRC, CC  
pretty much made one comment that they were going to ignore it.

Greg London

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-----Original message-----
From: Valentin Villenave <valentin at villenave.net>
To: Development of Creative Commons licenses <cc-licenses at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 00:43:56 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Mike Linksvayer <ml at creativecommons.org>  
> In sum, I find the idea interesting in theory, I'd guess there's a
> high hurdle for demonstrating that it would likely be beneficial
> enough to include in 4.0, and welcome attempts to do so. The most
> convincing attempt would be to immediately get some major NC <= 3.0
> licensors to make independent commitments to dropping NC after some
> short number of years. :)

As someone who's been using -NC in the past and is now in the middle
of relicensing everything under BY-SA or FAL, I have to say this line
of thought does sound familiar. I think Gregor's idea is bold and
interesting, and certainly deserves to be carefully considered (it
somehow meets the rationale I once suggested to rms, which he
mentioned at the end of
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html ).

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