[cc-licenses] CC and phone-hold music

Jessica Coates j2.coates at qut.edu.au
Mon Aug 6 22:34:09 EDT 2007

I agree - the reference to the URI should definitely be watered down in the
licence. At the very least, a reference to the licence the article is under
(rather than the URI itself) should suffice for appropriate mediums (eg
radio, music-on-hold).

The solution I've been playing with re the attribution is to include the
full attribution details of the material on a website, and include an
announcement referring people to the website in the music stream. If the
announcement was frequent enough, this could arguably be said to be
'reasonable to the medium'.


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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:02:57 -0400
From: drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com>
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] CC and phone-hold music
To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts
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On Monday 06 August 2007 03:18 am, David Maeztu wrote:
> Jessica Coates escribi?:
> > Hi all
> Hi,
> > We?ve had an inquiry from a non-profit wanting to use CC music on their
> > phone hold system (ie as ?music-on-hold?).
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as I can see, this would be allowed by the CC licences. The only
> > question is attribution ? any suggestions how you might achieve this?
> For example in a CC-BY-NC-SA, one of the most used licenses you can read:
> 4.d)
> If You Distribute, or Publicly Perform the Work or any Adaptations or
> Collections, You must, unless a request has been made pursuant to
> Section 4(a), keep intact all copyright notices for the Work and
> provide, reasonable to the medium or means You are utilizing: [...]
> I think it?s reasonable to the medium (the phone music on hold) not to
> do the attribution every time.

To my mind the real killer is not the attribution requirement which, as you 
say, is reasonable to the medium, but the requirement re the URI which has
reasonable exceptions as far as I remember and I have pointed this out 
previously with respect to radio station use.

No one suggested any workable solutions, nor do I see any as the licenses
currently worded. I would be happy to be educated otherwise.
> I think that kind of situations was the reason of that exception to
> attribution.
> > There?s leeway within the licence for attribution appropriate to the use
> > ? but how far does that go?
> >
> >
> >
> > Jessica Coates
> >
> > Project Manager
> >
> > Creative Commons Clinic
> >
> > Queensland University of Technology
> >
> >
> >
> > ph: 07 3138 8301
> >
> > fax: 07 3138 9598
> >
> > email: j2.coates at qut.edu.au
> >

all the best,


(da idea man)


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