[cc-licenses] Alex Bosworth: "Creative Commons Is Broken"

Adam Fields cc-licenses345982 at aquick.org
Tue Mar 7 13:09:07 EST 2006


On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 12:54:11PM -0500, Greg London wrote:
> > But that's an argument against the use of an NC license to begin
> > with.
> 
> And I'm arguing against using the NC license for
> any Gift Economy project. If you are a writer
> who is working on a market economy project,
> then you could use CC-NC to leverage your work,
> to let fans create fan-fic, to generate word-of-mouth, etc.
> But if you're trying to create a gift economy project,
> then I'd say use nothing but CC-SA.

Oh, well, that sounds fair.

> > And it's not necessarily "money", it's "profit". There's a
> > difference.
> 
> Well, see, I don't really see a difference.
> 
> my personal opinion on the matter
> is that CC-NC is a market economy license,
> that it is only used by individuals who wish
> to give away some rights in exchange for something
> else that may benefit them, such as generating
> word-of-mouth about a work and increasing sales.
>
> In that case, an author who is trying to make money
> on their work may not intend to give their work
> away for free to non-profit organizations.
> I'm not entirely sure what CC-NC users are expecting.
> But they may not be expecting that.

As I've said - I use CC-NC-ND to license my photos. I'm not selling
them. I don't want others to sell them. If you want to print out a
copy to hang on your wall, great. If you want to use it on the cover
of your brochure, I want to hear about it and possibly say no.

Beyond money, there is certainly a concept of control here. I don't
necessarily want my work being used for the benefit of organizations I
don't agree with, so I'm not ready to give blanket permissions that
would allow that. I tend to think of this as "aligning missions".

But this is pretty clearly "my work", not a gift economy. I think
we're saying the same thing.

> This is part of the reason for ironing out guidelines
> to hopefully make it more clear. And to find out what
> people are expecting. and hopefully get the license
> wording to match up with expectations, or alter
> expectations to match the license wording.


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