[cc-licenses] Creative commons for music

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Tue Apr 4 08:57:12 EDT 2006

Answering more than one poster in a combined fashion below.

On Monday 03 April 2006 05:47 pm, Rob Myers wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2006, at 22:23, Gary (AUDN) wrote:
> > However, adding advertising now “officially” breaks the non-
> > Commercial aspect of the CC license?
> Always has done. :-)

I read this as:

(adding advertising now) ( “officially” breaks the non-
Commercial aspect of the CC license)

You seem to have read:

(adding advertising) (now  “officially” breaks the non-
Commercial aspect of the CC license)
> >  The Music industry seriously needs a different version of the CC
> > license which allows commercial companies to be allowed to
> > broadcast the work, be it using Podcast, traditional radio,
> > internet radio, in clubs, pubs or cafes etc. for public entertainment.

What is stopping them from treating an NC licensed song the same as an "all 
rights reserved" song and using it anyway. Just pay the normal royalties?

Are broadcast stations not allowed to play music unless the writers are 
affiliated with some performing rights society?
> Musicians could release a closed version of the track as a promo and
> an NC version of the track for online advertising^D^D remixing. I
> think. I am not a lawyer, though.
> > This is not just the commercial CC license, as music could not be
> > burnt on a CD and sold, become the brand of a corporation, using to
> > advertise a product, or derivative works made etc.
> The NC Sampling Plus license protects against advertising and un-
> transformative derivation. I don't know how it interacts with
> commercial airplay. IANAL.
> > Perhaps the non-Commercial license should have an option to allow
> > broadcasting on commercial radio/casting as long as it is not used
> > as part of an advertising message and the track still attributed in
> > a reasonable way.
> But this would go against the whole idea of "non-commercial". The
> commercial station would be making money off the track. It is no
> different to burning it to CD and selling it.
> > Is this in the realm of CC, or does the industry need a separate
> > alternative to PPL/MCPC/PRS (this is what we have in the UK).
> Certainly recording societies need to be more CC-aware. There is some
> work going on to this end in the UK, you could try the CC-UK mailing
> list but I don't think there's any news on that front yet.

That would be nice. Here is to success on that front.
> - Rob.

all the best,

Record a song and you might win $1,000.00

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