[cc-community] [cc-licenses] Rant about CC licenses

Emma Carpenter emma.k.carpenter at live.com
Tue Dec 17 16:50:48 EST 2013


I'm sorry - I meant to say SA, not NC, just got mixed up. But the same applies either way - all of the CC terms are part of copyright. So the only 'non-copyright' licence which could exist would be a straight CC-NK, which rather resembles CC0. :)

Emma Carpenter

> From: zotz at 100jamz.com
> To: cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:46:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [cc-community] [cc-licenses] Rant about CC licenses
> 
> On Tuesday 17 December 2013 09:36:42 Emma Carpenter wrote:
> > Ah, but how can someone who doesn't want any copyright, also want BY and
> > NC terms - which are part of their copyright - applied to their work?
> 
> I never said I want NC (I don't), I said I would have used the letters NC to 
> mean "No Copyright wanted" but those letters are already taken so that I 
> would use NK instead. IOW: "No Kopyright wanted."
> 
> We do not have to have attribution tied to the right to copy in law, we have 
> chosen to do so.
> 
> Claiming a work as one's own when it is not could just as easily be grouped in 
> with fraud laws surely...
> 
> And for the record, if the only way to drop all of copyright is to forgo BY, 
> then BY can go.
> >
> > Emma Carpenter
> 
> all the best,
> 
> drew
> >
> > On 17/12/2013 12:32 PM, drew Roberts wrote:
> > > On Monday 16 December 2013 20:46:34 Mitar wrote:
> > >> But not about expiration.
> > >> Which means that people are taking practically infinite protection
> > >> time as something taken for granted. How we will then ever get any
> > >> support on changing those terms, if we do never tell people that, you
> > >> know, you could also choose something shorter.
> > >
> > > If you really want to capture data about some creators wishes you would
> > > need something like BY-SA-NK (Should be NC but that is already taken with
> > > another meaning...) Where NK = No Copyright. This would indicate that I
> > > want my work Copyleft and Free and am calling for copyright monopolies to
> > > be done away with entirely. (We are going to wreck democracy in our
> > > persuit of these monopolies. If we haven't already wrecked it or don't
> > > wreck it sooner for other reasons.)
> > >
> > > all the best,
> > >
> > > drew
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